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Old 11-07-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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Puerto Rico is a very strongly Republican territory. I agree though, the Democrats will never allow it, and the rednecks will revolt because PR would have stronger representation than half the states. If it's to be admitted, it'll likely be in tandem with another territory.
Puerto Rico Republican. Are you kidding? Educate yourself a little bit more.

 
Old 11-07-2012, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Little Italy, Cleveland
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Puerto Rico is a very strongly Republican territory. I agree though, the Democrats will never allow it, and the rednecks will revolt because PR would have stronger representation than half the states. If it's to be admitted, it'll likely be in tandem with another territory.
This is sarcasm, right? I would never call Puerto Rico a strong Republican anything...
 
Old 11-07-2012, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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It will never happen because that would increase the number of congressional Democrats for both the House and the Senate. The Republicans will never allow that to happen as long as they have the political means to prevent it.
That is where you are completely wrong. The Republican Party has historically been more pro-statehood than the Democratic Party. The PPD (anti-statehood party) is officially aligned with the Democratic Party, while the PNP (pro-statehood party) is more aligned to the Republican Party than the Democratic Party. Also, compare the two 2012 platforms:

Democratic Party:
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We commit to moving resolution of the status issue forward with the goal of resolving it expeditiously. If local efforts in Puerto Rico to resolve the status issue do not provide a clear result in the short term, the President should support, and Congress should enact, self-executing legislation that specifies in advance for the people of Puerto Rico a set of clear status options, such as those recommended in the White House Task Force Report on Puerto Rico, which the United States is politically committed to fulfilling.
Republican Party:
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We support the right of the United States citizens of Puerto Rico to be admitted to the Union as a fully sovereign state after they freely so determine. We recognize that Congress has the final authority to define the constitutionally valid options for Puerto Rico to achieve a permanent non-territorial status with government by consent and full enfranchisement. As long as Puerto Rico is not a state, however, the will of its people regarding their political status should be ascertained by means of a general right of referendum or specific referenda sponsored by the U.S. government.
Judging by these two platforms, the Republican platform seems far more pro-statehood. The Democratic platform IMO doesn't seem to be very pro-statehood at all; it seems to be neutral on the issue. Should Puerto Rico be admitted, the Republican Party will probably make a big push to make Puerto Rico at least a swing state based on their historical pro-statehood stance.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 04:26 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Let's not forget that alot of statehooders are also national Republicans. Luis Fortuno, Thomas Rivera Schatz (the NPP's largest voter earner yesterday), Jeniffer Gonzalez, Jorge Santini, Carlos Mendez, and Hector O'Neill are all Republicans. Legendary statehooder Luis Ferre was a big time national Republican and the statehood movement was started by a Republican Jose Celso Barbosa in 1899.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Never happen, within the present red-state paradigm. There would have to be one of two results:

1. Spanish accepted as an alternate language throughout the USA, or
2. All Puerto Ricans forced to use English.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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You already have about 50% of the people getting food stamps, may as well get some income taxes back.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: MN
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And would a 51st star be added to the flag?
One is added for every state. Most recently Alaska was #49, then Hawaii was #50.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Never happen, within the present red-state paradigm. There would have to be one of two results:

1. Spanish accepted as an alternate language throughout the USA, or
2. All Puerto Ricans forced to use English.
A) Spanish is already an accepted language in many states
B) There are NO laws mandating English as the National Language.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 06:34 PM
 
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