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Old 11-11-2012, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Suburbs of Cleveland
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The infamous Rust Belt is a region of cities that have gone through some bad times in the past few decades. But, what if it never stopped? How do you think things would be different? If the jobs never left, do you think cities like Detroit and Cleveland could have been some of America's premiere cities? In my opinion, I think the westward migration would have still happened. But the shrinkage wouldn't have been as bad, and there wouldn't be much decay left behind. So, go head and discuss.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Currently living in Reddit
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If the steel industry never left Pittsburgh it would probably still be a hell hole with severe air quality issues. And Cleveland might still be setting rivers on fire.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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The rust belt didn't shrink, it just grew at a slower rate than the rest of the country.

Cleveland's blight came more from people fleeing to the suburbs than from people fleeing to the rest of the country. Because of the industrial decline and urban blight, the city now has a chance to rebuild and create a more diverse economy. Things will work out well in the end, I believe.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Detroit would still be a very blighted city, but that's because most manufacturing jobs are in the suburbs. But it's likely the city would have still had over 1 million residents and if the economy hadn't crashed, there probably would have been big gentrification of the downtown area.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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So basically if cities like St. Louis, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati all stayed in the top 10 population wise by city limits and kept growing?

Well, I'd say Cleveland and Detroit would look similar to Chicago.

St. Louis, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati would look like a Philadelphia.

Side note: population evened out in the suburbs for these cities.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Than the SunBelt wouldn't have flourished and be what it is today. The decline of the Rustbelt essentially gave rise to the success of Sunbelt region.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Detroit would still be a very blighted city, but that's because most manufacturing jobs are in the suburbs. But it's likely the city would have still had over 1 million residents and if the economy hadn't crashed, there probably would have been big gentrification of the downtown area.
The thing about Detroit is that its suburbs are declining and losing population as well. People are just leaving the region(and the state) in droves. The census greatly reflects that as Michigan was one of the few states to lose population.
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The thing about Detroit is that its suburbs are declining and losing population as well. People are just leaving the region(and the state) in droves. The census greatly reflects that as Michigan was one of the few states to lose population.
Yea but that's because the entire state of Michigan lost 300,000 manufacturing jobs from 2000-2008 (probably due to outsourcing). So even before the recession, the state's economy was already shrinking. The recession pretty much just added fuel to the fire by making most people's homes almost worthless.
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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Then the economy would be much better than it is now.
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Old 10-23-2017, 02:10 PM
 
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Then the economy would be much better than it is now.
You are saying this in response to a 5 year old post. The economy IS much better than it was when this thread was made. Especially in regard to Detroit if that's the city you are referring to.
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