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Old 05-03-2013, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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What about the Illinois suburbs of St. Louis? In my opinion that area would seem solidly Mid-Western.
True. Urbanity could be an explanation there. But cities like Quincy, IL and Hannibal, MO do have some Southern influence.The southern half of Illinois is if I feel like really being generous, which I don't most of the time. Just because a place has southern influences doesn't mean it's not Midwestern.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:49 AM
 
Location: MD suburbs of DC
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True. Urbanity could be an explanation there. But cities like Quincy, IL and Hannibal, MO do have some Southern influence.The southern half of Illinois is if I feel like really being generous, which I don't most of the time. Just because a place has southern influences doesn't mean it's not Midwestern.
Fair enough, I'd say noticeable Southern influence begins no higher than a line between the St. Louis metro and the Champaign-Urbana metro, though.
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Old 05-05-2013, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Fair enough, I'd say noticeable Southern influence begins no higher than a line between the St. Louis metro and the Champaign-Urbana metro, though.
Maybe so, but these places are still not the South by a long shot. Even noticeable southern influence doesn't mean a place is Southern. If you want to know about among the beginnings of the first places I'd consider to be truly Southern, visit Paducah, KY and Sikeston, MO both nestled near to where the Ohio River flows into the Mississippi.
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:45 PM
 
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One interesting dividing line- black population

There's generally a line in the south where the black population goes from minimal to significant. South of this line is the black belt, stretching from Louisiana to Virginia. The black population is huge there and I think that region deserves to be on its own, let's call it the true deep south. North of the line is appalachia, where there aren't many black people at all. The lack of slavery, share cropping and historical jim crow makes it its own region as well- upland south. The dividing line is the piedmont, which is a combination of deep and upper south. This is also the rapidly growing urban corridor stretching from Atlanta to Raleigh. It's becoming its ow cultural region as well.
Pretty accurate. But I'm curious, where would the fringe outlyers be labled? I'm talking Central, South and West Texas, and Peninsular Florida?
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