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Old 12-07-2012, 06:36 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Hey Great Lakes fish sushi. Has anyone come across that? If it was good, then whatever city you had it in was probably the best.
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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For instance, if someone says the excessive cornfields of the midwest are boring (or some flyover reference) - the midwest gets mad.

Midwest expresses dislike for palm trees, and that is ok. Sort of how when people in the midwest complain about NY & LA, and how much better midwest living is. NY or LA says the midwest is boring, and the midwest gets mad.

By far, more than other regions, significantly more, the midwest has a lot more trouble admitting it's not for everyone. I guess you could say I've made a bit of a habit exploiting that, partially for personal vaudeville, but also, because it's true.
But you don't see "us" going to tropical locales and telling everybody palm trees suck, and I think that's the difference.
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Also, don't have a favorite midwestern city. In terms of not feeling "midwestern", I'd say Minneapolis by landslide.

My favorite destination in the midwest would have to be the Kansas City Plaza. Probably the only place I truly enjoy in the midwest.
Clearly, you haven't been to too many places in the Midwest...
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: IN
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Also, don't have a favorite midwestern city. In terms of not feeling "midwestern", I'd say Minneapolis by landslide.

My favorite destination in the midwest would have to be the Kansas City Plaza. Probably the only place I truly enjoy in the midwest.
The Kansas City Plaza does not feel like the Midwest core to me because it is just an immitation of the Sunbelt with the architecture and red tile roofs They did set a trend for the "open air" outdoor mall concept, though. KC has never been part of the Midwest core and is in the periphery of the region geographically. Johnson County, KS south of I-435 might as well be Plano, TX. It does not feel like the Midwest to me.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:44 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Guys, why aren't you talking about lake fish? That is far more exciting.

Also, post pics of your favorite urban areas of your favorite midwestern cities. Interesting, walkable neighborhoods please.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:48 PM
 
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Is Pittsburgh not Midwestern anymore?
Pittsburgh is not midwestern according to most people. Its considered northeastern but it DOES infact have some midwestern culture contrary to the belief of pittsburghians.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:22 PM
 
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Clearly, you haven't been to too many places in the Midwest...
I have been to enough I don't want to goto more.

Larger midwestern cities consider having a visible gay population, voting democrat, and some ethnic restaurants as being totally amazing. Where, in a coastal larger city - it's baseline, not seen as this amazing thing. Minneapolis & Chicago are exceptions (Minneapolis feeling more "coastal" in its progressive attitudes.)

Besides Minneapolis & Chicago - midwest cities are generally amazed at having a visible gay population (or hipsters for that matter).. Minneapolis & Chicago like coastal cities, recognize LGBT as part of society and that's that. Everywhere else in the midwest....people get in frivolous arguments over which is more gay-friendly, which has a gayer mayor, gay city council member, gay Burger King drive-thru, etc.

Feigned liberalism, intentionally exaggerated to overcompensate.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:53 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I have been to enough I don't want to goto more.

Larger midwestern cities consider having a visible gay population, voting democrat, and some ethnic restaurants as being totally amazing. Where, in a coastal larger city - it's baseline, not seen as this amazing thing. Minneapolis & Chicago are exceptions (Minneapolis feeling more "coastal" in its progressive attitudes.)

Besides Minneapolis & Chicago - midwest cities are generally amazed at having a visible gay population (or hipsters for that matter).. Minneapolis & Chicago like coastal cities, recognize LGBT as part of society and that's that. Everywhere else in the midwest....people get in frivolous arguments over which is more gay-friendly, which has a gayer mayor, gay city council member, gay Burger King drive-thru, etc.

Feigned liberalism, intentionally exaggerated to overcompensate.
How so? Both Iowa and Minnesota are states that have been putting their money where their mouth is in terms of being "liberal" more so than almost any state in the union. I don't see them as being particularly less aggressively liberal at all. Most midwestern states I've been to have been generally fairly progressive in their big cities which pretty much holds the same for big cities everywhere else in the union. I'm not sure how you got your impression that it's particularly conservative in the Midwest given how many fairly large and progressive cities there are there when measured against the US as a whole--really, even if you look at parts of California that aren't coastal cities, you'll find a lot of conservatives including the large hispanic population which is pretty socially conservative in a lot of senses. Meanwhile, the midwest has had some of its cities diversify outside of just white and black in the last two decades.

I don't really see where the hate for the Midwest comes in since most states in the union outside of the midwest has that sort of provincialism in smaller cities no matter where they're located. You yourself listed two of the largest cities/metros in the Midwest as examples of where stuff is fine. Doesn't this just mean you like big progressive cities?
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:54 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Anyhow, I heard there's salmon in the Great Lakes. Where's the sushi? Is there some sort of intrinsic health hazard from eating raw freshwater fish no matter how well prepared as opposed to saltwater fish?
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Anyhow, I heard there's salmon in the Great Lakes. Where's the sushi? Is there some sort of intrinsic health hazard from eating raw freshwater fish no matter how well prepared as opposed to saltwater fish?
Yes. Freshwater fish are prone to certain parasites that can also infect humans. Health departments don't allow freshwater sushi. I'm not sure what the deal is with salmon, it is probably safe because it is an ocean fish most of its' life and doesn't eat during its' fresh water breeding run. I wouldn't eat salmon raw if it came out of the great lakes watershed.
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