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Old 03-03-2014, 10:17 PM
 
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Lakeland, Florida
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Hmmm. Arizona, Maryland, and Texas gives you culture shock, but not New Mexico. Interesting.

Yes I would have thought New Mexico would have been included in culture shock.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:41 PM
 
Location: MD suburbs of DC
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DC region is not "southern" per se but it is very different from New England, yes. Colorado and New Mexico are also quite different though, boggles my mind why OP didn't include those.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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Yes I would have thought New Mexico would have been included in culture shock.
New Mexico and Arizona are pretty much identical.

My Long Island roommate was in shock with Arizona culture when she came to college here. In fact, it shocked her so much I think, that she moved back.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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FWIW, there are lots and lots of New Englanders living in Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado.

In fact, sometimes, it feels like there are more New Englanders out here than there are NY'ers/NJ folks, who seem to prefer the more cosmopolitan atmosphere of places like South Florida, Southern and Northern California, Metro Atlanta, and so on.

This leads me to believe that the priorities of New Englanders are more in line with those of Midwesterners and Upstate New Yorkers than those from the NYC/LI/NJ area. Settlement patterns in Florida illustrate this as well--New Englanders, Midwesterners, and Upstate New Yorkers tend to prefer the Gulf Coast where as the NYC-area crowd strongly prefers the area from Port St. Lucie to Miami.
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:16 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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New Mexico and Arizona are pretty much identical.
I'd say they're about as different from one another as Vermont and New Hampshire are... which, as any New Englander will tell you, is very different indeed.
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Old 03-06-2014, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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I'd say they're about as different from one another as Vermont and New Hampshire are... which, as any New Englander will tell you, is very different indeed.
Explain then. I'm curious. How are they different? I think New Mexicans are more liberal than us Arizonans in general but when I was in Gallup I saw zero differences, except maybe more Hispanics but that may not be true for the entire state.
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Old 03-06-2014, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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Explain then. I'm curious. How are they different? I think New Mexicans are more liberal than us Arizonans in general but when I was in Gallup I saw zero differences, except maybe more Hispanics but that may not be true for the entire state.
Let's see, how to say this politically? From my perspective, Arizona is like California's little conservative sidekick. Arizona follows California in terms of culture and social trends, but clashes with California in terms of politics. The same parallel can be drawn between New Mexico and its neighbor Colorado.

Arizona and New Mexico differ in terms of cuisine. Arizona reinvented Mexican food by giving us cheese crisps and chimichaungas, while New Mexico reimagines Mexican food by perfecting the sopapilla and green chili sauce!
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Phoenix Arizona
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I'd say they're about as different from one another as Vermont and New Hampshire are... which, as any New Englander will tell you, is very different indeed.
They're not that different but New Mexicans won't admit that. Put another way, if one was to ask which state is most like Arizona it would be New Mexico. The thing about the Southwest is there's been a long animosity between the urban centers in it. Unlike how Oregon and Washington are buddy-buddy (Cascadia, whatever that is) AZ and NM have always been aloof from each other. Albuquerque thinks Santa Fe is snobby, hates Phoenix, and is competitive when compared to Tucson. Tucson's whole existence seems to be based on hating Phoenix, Phoenix pretends like the other Southwest cities don't exist, and everybody bashes El Paso.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:22 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Explain then. I'm curious. How are they different? I think New Mexicans are more liberal than us Arizonans in general but when I was in Gallup I saw zero differences, except maybe more Hispanics but that may not be true for the entire state.
Oh please tell me you are not using Gallup as a quintessential representation of New Mexico! It's a poor town on the edge of the Navajo Res near the Arizona border so yeah it has similarities to rural parts of Northern AZ. To understand New Mexico though you have to experience Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Taos, and smaller towns like Chimayo and Truchas.

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They're not that different but New Mexicans won't admit that. Put another way, if one was to ask which state is most like Arizona it would be New Mexico. The thing about the Southwest is there's been a long animosity between the urban centers in it. Unlike how Oregon and Washington are buddy-buddy (Cascadia, whatever that is) AZ and NM have always been aloof from each other. Albuquerque thinks Santa Fe is snobby, hates Phoenix, and is competitive when compared to Tucson. Tucson's whole existence seems to be based on hating Phoenix, Phoenix pretends like the other Southwest cities don't exist, and everybody bashes El Paso.
You are totally on point there with how Southwestern cities views one another. But I think Arizona and New Mexico were probably a lot more similar 102 years ago when they became the 47th and 48th states to enter the union, but in the last 60 years or so Arizona has taken in way more transplants and a lot more California influence that has changed the whole character and settlement of the state in ways that New Mexico definitely has not. New Mexico is more old school and somewhat frozen in time.

Northern New Mexico in particular has more older settlements and several generation of Spaniard and Native America ancestry. Arizona has that in spots too, but its definitely more palpable in Northern NM and they have more of an accent here as well.

Both states have pockets of liberals, libertarians, and social conservatives and have somewhat similar political climates in some ways with New Mexico leaning more center left and Arizona more to the right. The thick of where most people live in both states are pretty far removed from eachother. Phoenix/Tucson and Albuquerque /Santa Fe are have a good 6-7 hour drive away with a lot of wide open space in between.

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