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Old 12-03-2012, 08:49 PM
 
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Indy is like the Black Mecca of the north. Blacks have historically been able to achieve more and live in peace in Indianapolis compared to other northern cities like Detroit and Chicago.
You CAN'T be serious. Detroit and Chicago were by FAR the historic Black meccas of the Midwest; Chicago still is. Both have produced a slew of Black entrepreneurs, politicians, and artists, way more than Indy.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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If you think it's so simple, answer it, because there are still several exceptions to this. Tennessee, Arkansas, North Carolina, and Virginia all have much smaller black populations than the deep south states.
But they still have significant black populations compared to other parts of the country.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:56 PM
 
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If you talk in raw numbers, despite having a smaller % of blacks representing the total population, some of those midwestern states have more blacks than deep south states.

Example? Illinois is only 15% and Louisiana is 32% black, but Illinois has 1.9 million blacks while Louisiana has 1.4 million blacks. Ohio is only 12% black while South Carolina is 28% black, but Ohio has 1.4 million blacks while South Carolina has 1.3 million. Also, NC and VA have more blacks than Mississippi, Alabama, etc. Blacks just make up a larger % of the latter 2 states' total population.

Now here's where you'll notice the REAL difference. In the deep south, the black population is more widespread. Example, most of the rural counties of Middle and South Georgia have lots of blacks people, as opposed to up north where the black population is almost exclusively in or near metropolitan cities.



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Old 12-03-2012, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Atlanta & NYC
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Why does peanut butter taste like peanuts?
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:00 PM
 
Location: where people are either too stupid to leave or too stuck to move
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Because that's where the North Atlantic slave trade traveled most too?
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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You CAN'T be serious. Detroit and Chicago were by FAR the historic Black meccas of the Midwest; Chicago still is. Both have produced a slew of Black entrepreneurs, politicians, and artists, way more than Indy.
Obiviously you didn't quite get what I meant so ill clarify.
Achieve more=getting a better job than just a factory. Not having massive racial segregation and racial tensions. Living a peaceful life without a corrupt government which promotes crime and poverty.
And I'm talking Today. Not in the early 1900s
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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The other thing to say is that Blacks leaving the South did not migrate uniformly across the rest of the country. The Northeastern/Midwestern industrial cities gained large Black populations. California did also, to a somewhat lesser extent. Blacks were recruited from Louisiana and Texas particularly to work in the shipyards and wartime industries of California during World War II. But many fewer Blacks went into the less populated far northern reaches of the country, like the Northwest and New England, especially northern New England. Among larger cities, Portland, Oregon, for example, has very few Blacks.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:58 PM
 
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Obiviously you didn't quite get what I meant so ill clarify.
Achieve more=getting a better job than just a factory. Not having massive racial segregation and racial tensions. Living a peaceful life without a corrupt government which promotes crime and poverty.
And I'm talking Today. Not in the early 1900s
First of all, you clearly stated that you were speaking historically, not today: "Blacks have historically been able to achieve more and live in peace in Indianapolis compared to other northern cities like Detroit and Chicago."

Secondly, massive segregation and tension is a result of those cities having had much higher levels of Black migration. The numbers were so large that the city steered Blacks into certain parts of the city (e.g., Bronzeville in Chicago).

Thirdly, historically, the sectors that built the Black middle class in America were manufacturing, government jobs, and entrepreneurship. You say that in Indy, Blacks were able to get better jobs than just factory jobs--in what sectors? And you're seriously downplaying factory jobs; that industry, particularly automobile factory jobs, almost single-handedly built what has been claimed to be America's largest Black middle class in Detroit.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:16 PM
 
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If you think it's so simple, answer it, because there are still several exceptions to this. Tennessee, Arkansas, North Carolina, and Virginia all have much smaller black populations than the deep south states.
NC is pretty Black. TN as state is a little different, but the big cities are pretty Black. Memphis is VERY Black. VA's pretty Black also. AK is a different story.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:23 PM
 
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NC is pretty Black. TN as state is a little different, but the big cities are pretty Black. Memphis is VERY Black. VA's pretty Black also. AK is a different story.
The difference is that Appalachia, which generally has a lower Black population, makes up a good bit of those states.
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