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Old 12-18-2012, 02:53 PM
 
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there are children. There are foreigners. There are foreign children. It doesnt seem implausible that there are people on the earth with access to the internet, and to US demographic data, who haven't the foggiest about US history.
Are you simply showcasing sophistry for the intrinsic joy of it, or are you suggesting that this thread was started by an inquisitive eight year old Bangaldeshi boy with broadband who prefers City-Data.com over Google? If the latter, then welcome to the forums Subrata. Isn't it past your bedtime?

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Old 12-18-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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Are you simply showcasing sophistry for the intrinsic joy of it, or are you suggesting that this thread was started by an inquisitive eight year old Bangaldeshi boy with broadband who prefers City-Data.com over Google? If the latter, then welcome to the forums Subrata. Isn't it past your bedtime?

I don't know what the OP is. I've seen much trollier posts than the one that began this thread - it was a simple question - even if one that almost any American with any historical sense knows the answer to.

Maybe I'm too cynical, but the absence of the most basic historical knowledge does not surprise me.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:21 PM
 
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there were three emergences of the klan of importance in American history. The reconstruction era klan, the 1920s klan, and the civil rights era klan. Only the second focused on Jews and Catholics as well as blacks.

the 1920s klan though strong in the north, and notoriously dominant in Indiana, was not AFAIK strong in the parts of the northeast where most Jews and Catholics lived. I am not aware of (though am ready to be enlightened about) klan activity in NY and New England. Even in the states where it was strong, it was heavily a rural phenomenon - active in places with few Jews, and not that many Catholics. By contrast the three emergences of the klan in the South were largely in areas with heavy black populations.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:54 AM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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The Meriden article is about a rally a few decades ago - definitely not the 1920s era klan.

Sounds like there was SOME 1920s era activity in New england, all or almost all in rural areas - and that it specifically impacted French Canadian catholics - which is not surprising, as they were IIUC more rural in where they lived than other catholic immigrants in New England.
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:28 PM
 
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Well, Blacks in Oklahoma are 7.7%
Oklahoma QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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The Meriden article is about a rally a few decades ago - definitely not the 1920s era klan.

Sounds like there was SOME 1920s era activity in New england, all or almost all in rural areas - and that it specifically impacted French Canadian catholics - which is not surprising, as they were IIUC more rural in where they lived than other catholic immigrants in New England.
I added the Meriden incident to show that it still exists and in all regions. I could add more, but I think those were enough to show that there was some activity.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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If you think it's so simple, answer it, because there are still several exceptions to this. Tennessee, Arkansas, North Carolina, and Virginia all have much smaller black populations than the deep south states.
Compared to other southern states yes, but compared to the rest of the nation no. There's more African-Americans in the South because of slavery, plain and simple.
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Old 01-25-2017, 07:55 PM
 
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Blacks were brought to US for free labor. After emancipation, several stayed in the house. They were rooted there w families. However, after Jim Crow laws and share cropping, a lot of Black wanted more opportunities. The Factories for work and allure to culture in NY drew the Black population into the north. It's coined The Great Migration. Harlem was the place to be. The ones who moved up there, tended to lay down their roots there.

To answer your question, it may be due to staying close to family, especially after slavery. Seldom were black slaves allowed to marry black slaves. Having that choice may have caused family to lay roots in the south.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:52 AM
 
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Anyone ever look at the statistics of the United States for demographics?

13.1% black out of 311,591,917. Equals out to slightly over 40 million African Americans.

In the south these demographics are a lot higher. Especially in the deep south:

1. Mississippi 37% black
2. Louisiana 32% black
3. Georgia 31% black
4. South Carolina 28% black.

Now compare this to the midwest

1. Indiana 9% black
2. Ohio 12% black
3. Illinois 15% black
4. Michigan 14% black

Or even compare it to New England, total opposite.

1. Maine 1% black
2. Massachusetts 8% black
3. Vermont 1% black
4. New Hampshire 1% black

Major southern cities

1. Atlanta 38% black
2. Birmingham 73% black
3. Jackson 79% black
4. New Orleans 60% black
5. Memphis 63% black

Major Midwestern cities

1. Indianapolis 25% black
2. Columbus 28% black
3. Louisville 23% black
4. Des Moines 10% black
5. Madison 7% black
6. Minneapolis 18% black

It seems African Americans have a much higher presence in the south and especially the southern cities. Can someone shed some light on this disparity of racial location to me?
No offense to the poster......but no one should finish high school not knowing the answer to this question. Granted, you could be a person who immigrated to America fairly recently. However, to become a citizen of this country.....the history of this country should be a prerequisite.

One of the problems of this country is short attention span. If it did not happen within the last couple of years.....its ancient history that needs to be forgotten. That is a problem because everything that is....evolved into what it is OVER TIME and as a consequence of action, reaction and mutation. Hence, you cannot really understand anything unless you understand the evolution of the "thing", which is essentially a chronology of the "things" history.

If you do not know and respect history.....than to many people African Americans are just complainers, looking to make excuses and wanting something for nothing, all while creating their own misery.
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Old 01-27-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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While the South does have a very high percentage of blacks relative to other U.S. regions, it's interesting to observe that there are very few blacks in many areas that are traditionally defined as being part of the South.

For example, the historic "Border States" of West Virginia, Kentucky and Missouri have low overall percentages of blacks. This trend continues into Kansas, Oklahoma and north and west Texas.

Even in Southern states with higher percentages of blacks, such as Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Arkansas and Tennessee, there are still large geographic areas of those respective states with very few blacks.

Now, I understand that there are many parts of the U.S. South where slave labor was not historically utilized (e.g., Appalachia), or were settled much more recently (e.g., Gulf Coast of Florida), but - for me at least - it begs the question of whether or not those regions are truly Southern, since the legacy of slavery is such a vivid chapter of and, in turn, a strong cultural marker of the South.

IMO, the federal government's current definition of the U.S. South is simply too broad and geographically expansive. For example, Florida and Oklahoma have almost nothing in common. Ditto Texas and Virginia, or West Virginia and Louisiana.
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