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Old 02-08-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Urban heat island effect? Maybe in chicago from skyscrapers but not st.louis. There arent that many skyscrapers here just low rise buildings and housing compacted together. We arent that dense. The most dense area in the st.louis area is Tower grove south neighbourhood with a density of 14,000 per sq mile. Dont you also have to be on a island to have a urban heat island effect?
With all the freaking brick structures, it can feel like a Pizza Oven during a St. Louis summer (and too bad that they haven't figure out how to make pizza in St. Louis)
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Wisconsin.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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With all the freaking brick structures, it can feel like a Pizza Oven during a St. Louis summer (and too bad that they haven't figure out how to make pizza in St. Louis)
THat is just the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. Have you ever been to Cicero's? Guido's? Any place on the Hill? Pointer's? Cecil Whittaker's? And IMO's is good, anyway.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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THat is just the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. Have you ever been to Cicero's? Guido's? Any place on the Hill? Pointer's? Cecil Whittaker's? And IMO's is good, anyway.
what'sa load of crap? The amount of brick building (and you know as much as I that St. Louis as a bank load of brick buildings, and those brick building radiate a lot of heat in the summer.

...or the Pizza? The only people that really gloat about StL pizza are locals
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Missouri is a below average state because it has seen negative job growth for quite some time, and job growth has been mixed in St. Louis and KC metro counties within Missouri. The suburban counties have tended to gain more jobs while the urban core counties have been losing jobs. Rural Missouri has seen mostly negative job growth and an out-migration of younger people, similar to many other states in the Midwest. Rural Missouri lags behind most of the Midwest in educational attainment overall. Missouri is not really seen as too progressive socially, culturally, or environmentally overall. It is below average along with Indiana.
The last time I heard, Missourians had among the higher graduation rates in high school.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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what'sa load of crap? The amount of brick building (and you know as much as I that St. Louis as a bank load of brick buildings, and those brick building radiate a lot of heat in the summer.

...or the Pizza? The only people that really gloat about StL pizza are locals
The pizza. I'm not disputing the heat. St. Louis is awful in the summer, and yes, I agree that the brick buildings are no help. And you're implying that the locals in St. Louis are stupid when it comes to taste? I've tried all kinds of pizza in NYC and Chicago. St. Louis is a pizza city in its own right. I know good pizza when I taste it, and putting down St. Louis as a below-average pizza place is being less than truthful. If IMO's is all there is to St. Louis, you haven't explored here. Locals can have a far more informative opinion of their city than the average outsider, who takes the sample he sees then leaves with a narrow-minded conclusion and believes he's right no matter what.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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I'd sooner live in the St. Louis Metro area of Missouri than almost anywhere in Kentucky, and it's part of the midwest.
If you just said Kentucky is the Midwest, oh boy. Kentucky is NOT part of the Midwest. Linguistically, culturally, and demographically Kentucky is completely southern. Nothing Midwestern about it.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:47 PM
 
Location: IN
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The last time I heard, Missourians had among the higher graduation rates in high school.
The overall picture is below average according to the Census Bureau. Missouri ranks below the average in the percentage of the population that has a high school diploma and a four year degree.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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If you just said Kentucky is the Midwest, oh boy. Kentucky is NOT part of the Midwest. Linguistically, culturally, and demographically Kentucky is completely southern. Nothing Midwestern about it.
Upon further inspection, it would appear that you're right. Kentucky is NOT classified as a midwestern state, despite its close proximity. I thought it felt about as midwestern as Indiana though, minus the mountain folk, of which Indiana has none and Kentucky has a plentiful amount of.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:36 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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The overall picture is below average according to the Census Bureau. Missouri ranks below the average in the percentage of the population that has a high school diploma and a four year degree.
According to this, Missouri is above the national average in percentage of population with a high school degree:

List of U.S. states by educational attainment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Missouri is slightly below the national average for having population with a bachelor degree. But when you compare Missouri to, I don't know, some random midwestern state such as Wisconsin, the difference is hardly statistically significant: 25.7 for Wisconsin, 25.2 for Missouri. Missouri is higher than several core midwestern states, including Iowa (surprisingly), Ohio, Michigan and Indiana.

And while Missouri is again slightly below the national average for percentage of population with a graduate degree, it is significantly higher in that regard than, say, I don't know, Wisconsin, with Missouri at 9.5% and Wisconsin at 8.4%. Missouri also ranks higher in this regard than a number of other core midwestern states in addition to Wisconsin, including Iowa, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio.

If one is looking at the midwest region, which we were, it is hard to say Missouri is below average in educational attainment compared to other core midwestern states. Again, the midwest states that really jump out above average here are states like Minnesota that are less densely populated, are more ethnically homogeneous and have fairly low, relative to the other states in the midwest, minority populations. I'm actually curious why Wisconsin doesn't rank higher.

And Missouri has a fairly high percentage of population with a graduate degree relative to our other midwestern states - presumably due to two fairly large metro areas.

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