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Old 12-15-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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So the most common definition of flyover country is the area you cross flying between the two largest cities in the country, New York City and Los Angeles. Or, Flyover country refers to the region between the east coast and west coast that are not culturally, financially or socially important. It is an elitist phrase intended to malign anyone not in a "significant" city like New York, Boston, Washington DC, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, etc.

Are people on the east coast and west coast really that snobbish? Is this the general idea that all of them have about the midwest, southern states, and plains/mountain states?

Or is the term not meant to be offensive? Just a generalized term to states that they literally fly over on their "important" business trips.

Some people go to say that there's no excitement in the midwest, there isn't the same type of history or culture or significance in the midwest.

My girlfriend is from Maine, so I hear this from her a lot, except Maine is north of NYC, so it's not really even a flyover state at all. But I don't understand how people can dismiss the middle of the country as being plain and boring...Chicago, the third largest city in the country is right in the middle of the midwest, plenty of history, culture, and significance there, O'hare is also the second busiest airport in the world, far busier than LAX or JFK. Detroit is another one, the twin cities are very artsy even compared with the big league coastal cities of Seattle and Boston. Indianapolis is the crossorads of America, chances are if you're driving west you will be passing through Indiana or Indy, Nashville is the home of country music, Kentucky is home of the Kentucky derby, a huge favorite for horse riders which is popular in New England.

And then you have Georgia, where Atlanta lies, enormous city, holding the busiest airport in the world, serving over 90 million travelers per year. Is Georgia considered a flyover state? I mean...it has a coast, but no major coastal cities or ports.

Open to discussion and debate from all sides, maybe California and New England really are that much more exciting than the heartland.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Dont let it bother you cold lol
Youll find out when you move back up north to Indianapolis that alot of transplants in Indy came from the east or west coasts or the South.
These people like me were probably tired of the ignorance and the self-centeredness you find on the ignorant coasts.
So just ignore them and laugh at them.
As i always say living in a concrete jungle/wasteland like New York can do crazy things to you


Also i will add one major reason i refuse to donate money to disaster relief efforts of Hurricane Sandy/Irene is the east coasters like to trash talk the heartland then expect the heartland to feed and save their ass in their time of need? hahahhaha ya right.
Not to mention Taxes are already high enough so that should pay for any disaster recovery.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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Ever think it could just be a literal meaning. I live on the east coast, if I fly to the LA then yes the area from point A (Philadelphia) to point B (Los Angeles) would be the area I flew over, hence flyover country.

People generally consider flyover country as places like Kansas and Nebraska not Chicago or Detroit. Since the coasts of America see a lot more tourism you have a lot more travel between coasts. So a lot of people on the east coast have been to the west coast but not middle america and vise versa. Therefor a lot of people's only experience with these states is that they've "flown" over them.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:25 PM
 
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Are people on the east coast and west coast really that snobbish? Is this the general idea that all of them have about the midwest, southern states, and plains/mountain states?
The answer is yes, particularly for many NYC residents who think they live at the center of the universe. They're part of the same crowd that uses statements like "I don't know, it's one of those "I" States"....
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:47 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Also i will add one major reason i refuse to donate money to disaster relief efforts of Hurricane Sandy/Irene is the east coasters like to trash talk the heartland then expect the heartland to feed and save their ass in their time of need? hahahhaha ya right.
I was going to say something about people who use the term 'flyover country' just being ignorant fools and their lack of knowledge and provincialism being their own problem. But now I am just speechless. Maybe 'flyover country' should just be called 'callous country'.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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I was going to say something about people who use the term 'flyover country' just being ignorant fools and their lack of knowledge and provincialism being their own problem. But now I am just speechless. Maybe 'flyover country' should just be called 'callous country'.
Lol...
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Deltana, AK
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Even if the midwest is a better place to live than the coasts (debatable, but that's not the point), there isn't near the density and quality of attractions to VISIT as on the coasts. Sure Chicago (and others) is a big city with lots to see and do, but still, if I think to myself, "I want to go see a big city," I'm probably going to go to San Francisco or the eastern seaboard. So, unless one already lives in the midwest, then yeah, flyover states. This isn't something to get too worked up about; tourists are annoying... You have to realize that one of the major advantages the midwest has is that not everybody wants to live there, allowing more open space, and a lower cost of living.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Even if the midwest is a better place to live than the coasts (debatable, but that's not the point), there isn't near the density and quality of attractions to VISIT as on the coasts. Sure Chicago (and others) is a big city with lots to see and do, but still, if I think to myself, "I want to go see a big city," I'm probably going to go to San Francisco or the eastern seaboard. So, unless one already lives in the midwest, then yeah, flyover states. This isn't something to get too worked up about; tourists are annoying... You have to realize that one of the major advantages the midwest has is that not everybody wants to live there, allowing more open space, and a lower cost of living.
Cheaper cost of living and lower insurance rates is for sure! I'm sure international tourists on the coasts is a lot higher as well.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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I was going to say something about people who use the term 'flyover country' just being ignorant fools and their lack of knowledge and provincialism being their own problem. But now I am just speechless. Maybe 'flyover country' should just be called 'callous country'.
its called what goes around comes around
The Heartland of America provides the food that you need to survive.
So trash talking the heartland which a couple of Coasters even on City-Data like to do isnt a wise decision
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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I think the term originated as an inside joke by media executives after World War II. Back then, coast-to-coast commercial air service was still a relatively new development, and it was no longer necessary for film producers/studio managers/etc. to take either a patchwork of flights with several stopovers between New York (the financial capital) and Los Angeles (the entertainment capital), or to take the train. Instead, they were now able to "fly over" everything from point-to-point. It's mostly just a turn of phrase.
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