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View Poll Results: Which non-Confederate state is the most Southern?
Oklahoma 63 23.33%
Kentucky 163 60.37%
West Virginia 44 16.30%
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Haha, we do but our teams can't do anything! But to be fair, we do have NASCAR. Tons of people call NC, "The birthplace of NASCAR." Richard Petty, Dale Earnhardt, Junior Johnson, etc. All from North Carolina. Most drivers live around Charlotte, too. If NASCAR ain't southern.....

We played basketball long before 'em Yankees came in
But we have two NASCAR tracks in the northeast too. :V

Trust me, people up here love NASCAR. haha
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:59 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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Haha, we do but our teams can't do anything! But to be fair, we do have NASCAR. Tons of people call NC, "The birthplace of NASCAR." Richard Petty, Dale Earnhardt, Junior Johnson, etc. All from North Carolina. Most drivers live around Charlotte, too. If NASCAR ain't southern.....

We played basketball long before 'em Yankees came in


Glad you have a sense of humor JayJay!

And although we definitely twang more than drawl out here on the west side, I bet you'd get along just fine.
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Old 11-29-2015, 12:32 AM
 
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Oklahoma like Texas had a lot of people who came out here after the civil war but southern Oklahoma has more southern influence than northern.
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Old 11-29-2015, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio.
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Oklahoma wasn't a state then, it was part of the "Indian Territory" which had aligned itself with the Confederacy, so it doesn't count.
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Oklahoma wasn't a state then, it was part of the "Indian Territory" which had aligned itself with the Confederacy, so it doesn't count.
Although on the surface the tribes aligned with the confederacy, there was much discord between the tribes regarding which side to align themselves. The indian territory had more civilian deaths per capita than any state in the south during the war due to this infighting.

The Cherokee literally switched sides during the war as the Union supporters gained the upper hand. It's really a fascinating study.

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Oklahoma was settled primarily by Tennesseans, Arkansans, Carolinians, etc. The result being a distinct southern flavor especially in its eastern region.
I'm not sure about this claim relative to the land run/lottery areas of the settlement of Oklahoma. Since the Boomer movement was organized by Kansans, and the land runs were in the central and northern part of the state, there were by far more people from Kansas and Missouri who settled in these areas than any place else, with Texans being the third most. The lottery areas were in southwestern Oklahoma and were settled by mostly Texans.

As to those settlers who rented or bought Indian land in eastern Oklahoma, your statement may be accurate.

Whatever the truth is there is obviously a great plains element and a cowboy/ western element that exists in Oklahoma along with it's "southernness."

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