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Old 03-24-2013, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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id like to hear more on st louis and cleveland
indy seems more country than those, is that fair to say? which one has more things to do?
St. Louis is in a lot better shape than Cleveland, however you're right, Indianapolis is pretty suburban. I wouldn't call it country, because it's not...still a large city, but outside of Indy Metro is pretty rural.

St. Louis and Cleveland are both much larger cities. I think I would say St. Louis has a good edge on Cleveland as being the better city, more historic neighborhoods there as well.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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id like to hear more on st louis and cleveland
indy seems more country than those, is that fair to say? which one has more things to do?
Indy is not more country. If anything that title belongs to Missouri. I wouldnt even consider Indy country. Its like your real midwestern city.
Indianapolis has an urban core and north side then the suburbs then the rural areas that will someday become Suburbs due to Indianapolis's growth.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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btw in regards to nightlife i shud add-lookin for hip hop related nightlife (nightclubs, strip clubs, events, parties)
other things like theaters, museums, etc are good, but secondary
between st louis, cleveland and indy, which one is better for that? or maybe some other city?
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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btw in regards to nightlife i shud add-lookin for hip hop related nightlife (nightclubs, strip clubs, events, parties)
other things like theaters, museums, etc are good, but secondary
between st louis, cleveland and indy, which one is better for that? or maybe some other city?
St Louis and Indy edge out in parties.
Indianapolis host all sorts of conventions and events and most of them morph into parties.
Indianapolis was the party capital for 10 days during Super Bowl 46 and Indy was so successful the city is bidding for Super Bowl 52 in 2018.
St louis probably wont ever host a super bowl in its current stadium.
Indianapolis has the 500 race every may which turns that whole month into a festival/party month. You have the 500 mini-marathon the 500 festival and parade. Along with Carb day and so on. It has its own traditions and you know when its may in Indianapolis.
The NCAA final 4 is held in Indianapolis every 5 years for the men and womens one.
Plus there are quite a few regional championships held in Indianapolis.
Then you have the colts. Since Lucas Oil Stadium is downtown there are massive festivities and parties before and after every colts game.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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so wat bout detroit, is it really as bad as its portrayed?
No. It's not.

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Yes, I would stay away from Detroit at all costs. Suburban Detroit is okay, but the perk of living in the suburbs is you're close to a big city with stuff to do, not many fun and safe things to do in Detroit.
Oh really??? what exactly can you not do in Detroit?

BTW there are affordable neighborhoods in the city limits which is safe.
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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No. It's not.


Oh really??? what exactly can you not do in Detroit?

BTW there are affordable neighborhoods in the city limits which is safe.
Oh yeah? I bet there are about 3 out of 100 that are considered safe. Even downtown Detroit is dying, abandoned skyscrapers in the downtown area...just an eyesore and sad.
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Oh yeah? I bet there are about 3 out of 100 that are considered safe. Even downtown Detroit is dying, abandoned skyscrapers in the downtown area...just an eyesore and sad.
Downtown Detroit is dying??? where the hell are you getting your info from??? There are constantly new things happening in downtown Detroit. There is almost a 100% occupancy rate for residential living in the downtown area. Residential supply can't even keep up with demand. People are being put on waiting list to move to the downtown area.

Developing Detroit: Five major developments to keep an eye on in 2013 | MLive.com
M-1 Rail Hits the Jackpot! Feds To Grant Project $25 Million - Route Map - Curbed Detroit
Finally, residents start moving into downtown Detroit's Broderick Tower | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
Largest Buffalo Wild Wings In America Opening Sunday In Detroit Detroit 2020
In Detroit, Urban Flight in Reverse - Businessweek
Detroit awarded $10M to improve Eastern Market, link Dequindre Cut, Midtown and Hamtramck | MLive.com
DNR expects a million visitors a year to Detroit riverfront discovery center | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
Updated Renderings for Garden Theater and Woodward Gardens - Renderings Revealed - Curbed Detroit

That is a few links that go back to about a year ago. I could provide you with endless links that proves your statement false.
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Old 03-24-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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Yes, I would stay away from Detroit at all costs. Suburban Detroit is okay, but the perk of living in the suburbs is you're close to a big city with stuff to do, not many fun and safe things to do in Detroit.

What fun and safe things are you looking to do?
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Old 03-24-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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Downtown Detroit is dying??? where the hell are you getting your info from??? There are constantly new things happening in downtown Detroit.

I would also like to know where this information is coming from. Why is every Red Wings game sold out? 3 casinos in Detroit is more than most other cities. And the lake/boating scene in Detroit surpasses nearly every major metro in the US.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Mahoning Valley, Ohio
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St. Louis is in a lot better shape than Cleveland, however you're right, Indianapolis is pretty suburban. I wouldn't call it country, because it's not...still a large city, but outside of Indy Metro is pretty rural.

St. Louis and Cleveland are both much larger cities. I think I would say St. Louis has a good edge on Cleveland as being the better city, more historic neighborhoods there as well.
Huh? Have you been to Cleveland? That's a serious question, because as someone who went to school there, and has visited St. Louis several times, Cleveland is doing significantly better than St. Louis both economically and redevelopment wise. Saying St. Louis is in "a lot" better shape than Cleveland is completely inaccurate. A neighborhood like Hough in Cleveland doesn't even come close to the northside in St. Louis when it comes to abandonment. Downtown Cleveland is more active than downtown St. Louis. Outside of Washington Avenue, St. Louis seemed devoid of life after office hours. Meanwhile, downtown Cleveland has Playhouse Square, the Warehouse District, Gateway District, and East Fourth Street. I prefer Cleveland's Little Italy over The Hill, and Forest Park in St. Louis is pretty amazing along with Grove Park (name correct?), but Cleveland's Metroparks win out on this, especially having the Cuyahoga Valley National Park as a piece of it.

Development in Cleveland is far outpacing St. Louis at the moment, I mean it's not even close. Cleveland just off the top of my head is building a new convention center, an entire new mixed-use neighborhood starting off with a new office tower, hotel, and restaurants called the Flats East Bank, several new hotels or renovations of exisiting hotels to accomodate the new downtown resurgence, a 30 story tower being converted to residential, along with the entire Ameritrust Complex being converted to mixed-use along with a new 8-story building for the county headquarters. This is just in the CBD. Downtown Cleveland has created a bustling district around Progressive Field and Quicken Loans Arena. St. Louis has a beautiful ballpark, but it is surrounded by nothing. The football stadium in St. Louis was at least close to Washington Avenue. And I stayed at the hostel in St. Louis... holy dirty and pathetic. I stayed for two hours and decided to leave because I was not going to be spending my week there. The hostel was in Soulard, but I feel Cleveland's hostel is much, much better positioned, not to mention clean and modern. Cleveland's hostel is right in the action of Ohio City, which has a far more vibrant feel than Soulard.

St. Louis' art museum sits in the truly amazing Forest Park, but the museum wasn't as impressive as Cleveland's museum of art and the surrounding Wade Lagoon. The lake around St. Louis's musuem is really nice, but Wade Lagoon isn't just by the museum and some golf course. We could compare the cultural offerings of each city since "St. Louis is doing so much better than Cleveland." I know St. Louis is expanding their art museum, but you should look into what Cleveland's art museum just finished. Compare if you like .

I could go on about Cleveland's neighborhoods, too. But the point is, don't dismiss Cleveland being inferior to St. Louis when it certainly isn't. Right now, Cleveland is the one with the edge.
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