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Old 03-24-2013, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Originally Posted by Min-Chi-Cbus View Post
I believe you.

BTW, can you provide some statistics (or somebody else, I don't care whom) about the residential boom in Detroit downtown?

E.g.:

-vacancy rate for apartments
-# of units under construction or planned
-population
-etc.


Thanks!
I heard the news in articles so here's what I found.

Your Downtown Rental Building Wait List Report Is Here! - Rent Check - Curbed Detroit
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/12/re...R2zDYYzRcnT1nw
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:58 PM
 
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Seattle (excluding housing), Phoenix, Dallas, Houston and Nashville all meet your requirements.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Originally Posted by Min-Chi-Cbus View Post
I believe you.

BTW, can you provide some statistics (or somebody else, I don't care whom) about the residential boom in Detroit downtown?

E.g.:

-vacancy rate for apartments
-# of units under construction or planned
-population
-etc.


Thanks!
http://www.detroitsevenpointtwo.com/...fullreport.pdf

Resident population: 36,550

Employee population: 135,402

Student population: 31,000

Yuppie population (25-34 with a bachelors or higher): 2,659

$2.1 billion dollars of investment between 2010 and 2012. $339,478,505 or 65 projects are completed.*

Out of a total of 130 projects, 7 residential projects were completed, 6 are under construction, and 8 are in the pipeline (mostly renovations of vacant structures).*

Housing: 26,722 total units. 6,000 units are vacant. 1,300 units were added between 2000 and 2010. 17,000 are renter-occupied.

Median gross rent: $651

*As of October 2012.

Personally, I don't think of it as a residential boom as so much a general construction boom. 1,300 units doesn't seem like a whole lot but there's a butt ton of construction going on.
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:54 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Baltimore, for eastcoast cities.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:07 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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hmm 850 is not dat cheap
Average apartment renting price in Indianapolis is around 500-600$ a month.
So ya 850 is not cheap at all.
Plus since Indy has the nations most affordable housing market a 125k home which is the average price in the Indy metro area will run 500-600$ a month for a mortgage payment.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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wat bout burbs
In Shaker Heights, we currently rent the first floor of a 2-family, 2BR/1BA house for $750/mo., and we're looking to upgrade to a 3BR/2BA house for under $1,000......both of which I consider very very cheap! We're also within a half mile of the RTA (light rail).
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Seattle (excluding housing), Phoenix, Dallas, Houston and Nashville all meet your requirements.
Seattle's affordable -- since when?
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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http://www.detroitsevenpointtwo.com/...fullreport.pdf

Resident population: 36,550

Employee population: 135,402

Student population: 31,000

Yuppie population (25-34 with a bachelors or higher): 2,659

$2.1 billion dollars of investment between 2010 and 2012. $339,478,505 or 65 projects are completed.*

Out of a total of 130 projects, 7 residential projects were completed, 6 are under construction, and 8 are in the pipeline (mostly renovations of vacant structures).*

Housing: 26,722 total units. 6,000 units are vacant. 1,300 units were added between 2000 and 2010. 17,000 are renter-occupied.

Median gross rent: $651

*As of October 2012.

Personally, I don't think of it as a residential boom as so much a general construction boom. 1,300 units doesn't seem like a whole lot but there's a butt ton of construction going on.
Thanks, that's excellent data! (I'm a data nut too!!)

If there are 130 projects and $2.1B in construction going on in downtown, and yet only 15-20 of those 130 projects are for housing, what is the rest for?

Also, what area does your downtown population encompass? 36K is a very high number for any downtown in America, and it'd probably be a top 10 population amongst U.S. cities, which I would be surprised to hear (albeit, pleasantly surprised).

*Edit (per your source):
-7.2 sq. miles for "downtown"
-Occupancy rate ~96%
-Median Rent is $741, Cleveland is $644 (also, it says Mpls is $785, to which I say good luck finding anything for that rate today!)
-New construction is asking for ~$1.25-$1.50 per SF rent
-88 of 130 projects are renovations, 25 are new construction (the majority of investment is in Midtown: $1.2B, 78 projects)

P.S. I have family in Detroit, so I want to see it succeed.

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Old 03-25-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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Seattle's affordable -- since when?
ikr
plus the housing is like the main affordability criteria anyway cuz its the biggest expense
wit that logic u can say nyc is not all dat bad (except housing) lol
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:51 AM
 
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Average apartment renting price in Indianapolis is around 500-600$ a month.
So ya 850 is not cheap at all.
Plus since Indy has the nations most affordable housing market a 125k home which is the average price in the Indy metro area will run 500-600$ a month for a mortgage payment.
now thats cheap
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