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Old 10-22-2007, 06:36 PM
Status: "Fall is in the air-too soon!" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Pittsburgh, like Columbus, has a reputation that masks the reality. Columbus is more eclectic than you would expect for mid Ohio.
Pittsburgh wasn't good enough for Richard Florida, but most sane people love it.
Who?? Explain to this old lady who he is, please.
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:38 PM
 
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Pittsburgh, like Columbus, has a reputation that masks the reality. Columbus is more eclectic than you would expect for mid Ohio.
Pittsburgh wasn't good enough for Richard Florida, but most sane people love it.
Could you please explain what you mean by Pittsburgh having a reputation that masks its reality?
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:44 PM
 
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Yeah, Are you saying that Pittsburgh suffers from its reputation and that it is actually a cool city, or that R. Florida didn't deem it worthy of being a creative class city and it is therefore not cool?
FYI - Richard Florida devised the theory of the creative class (Gays, artists, et. cetera) and how it creates better, more diverse and progressive cities.
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:56 PM
 
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Yeah, Are you saying that Pittsburgh suffers from its reputation and that it is actually a cool city, or that R. Florida didn't deem it worthy of being a creative class city and it is therefore not cool?
FYI - Richard Florida devised the theory of the creative class (Gays, artists, et. cetera) and how it creates better, more diverse and progressive cities.
Yeah, he was on the Colbert Report!
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Richard Florida never stopped whining the whole time he was at Carnegie Mellon. I don't think Pittsburgh misses him. Where to did he follow the "creative class," exactly? Auckland? Shanghai? Probably Cambridge (the one in Massachusetts or the one in England, same diff). New Zealand wouldn't surprise me, as it's where all the real anti-American types hang out.

The reality is that Pittsburgh is probably too cool for Richard Florida. Pittsburgh doesn't sit around and worry about how many gays and artists it has versus Copenhagen or Sydney. It probably does compare itself versus Cleveland, though.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:01 PM
Status: "Fall is in the air-too soon!" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Thanks for explaining that.

It seems like M TYPE X likes Pittsburgh. It is fine for four years of college. Its economy could be better, which is something to consider after graduation.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:02 PM
 
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...and Buffalo? Pittsburgh is one of my favorites.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:11 PM
Status: "Fall is in the air-too soon!" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It probably does compare itself versus Cleveland, though.
Yes, it does. And vice versa. For a while, both cities had threads going about that. Pitts. compares itself to Cincinatti, too. Not so much with Buffalo. Despite being in PA, Pgh is more oriented towards Ohio. It's very close, probably 35 miles from the Ohio line.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:16 PM
 
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Cleveland to Pittsburgh is a nice drive, but it's not short. It's not long either. It's long if you had wine to drink on top of Mt Washington, or were spinning around Monroeville at sunset.

Back when I first read RF's two books, I was living outside of Akron and thought maybe he should be forced to live in metro Cleveland for a while. He writes well, but he's a jerk (typical academic). I would sentence him to Champaign-Urbana for a standard contract term. I'm just really mean that way. Huh, I think the UI has an urban planning/studies program, have to check on it. Heck, he would be a more interesting speaker than we usually see here.

I'm not supposed to complain about C-U. It only smells bad here on random days, and the paycheck does smell like real money, and acts like it too. That's better than U-Pitt, who offered no financial incentive and is in Oakland, a stinky part of Pittsburgh.

Berkeley stinks and is dangerous. I think you need to be a dirty hippie to like Berkeley. I suspect that Richard Florida would rather be in Ann Arbor, but I haven't interviewed him yet.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:31 PM
Status: "Fall is in the air-too soon!" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Cleveland to Pittsburgh is a nice drive, but it's not short. It's not long either. It's long if you had wine to drink on top of Mt Washington, or were spinning around Monroeville at sunset.

LOL!

Back when I first read RF's two books, I was living outside of Akron and thought maybe he should be forced to live in metro Cleveland for a while. He writes well, but he's a jerk (typical academic). I would sentence him to Champaign-Urbana for a standard contract term. I'm just really mean that way. Huh, I think the UI has an urban planning/studies program, have to check on it. Heck, he would be a more interesting speaker than we usually see here.

LOL! MY DH had an adviser when he was a grad student at U of I who said that the blah-ness of the place was an incentive to work harder. There was nothing else to do in that town!

I'm not supposed to complain about C-U. It only smells bad here on random days, and the paycheck does smell like real money, and acts like it too. That's better than U-Pitt, who offered no financial incentive and is in Oakland, a stinky part of Pittsburgh.

If you go to the Pittsburgh forum, you will see that many think Oakland/Shadyside is the epitome of "hipness".

Berkeley stinks and is dangerous. I think you need to be a dirty hippie to like Berkeley. I suspect that Richard Florida would rather be in Ann Arbor, but I haven't interviewed him yet.
Never been to Berkely.
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