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View Poll Results: Are Pittsburgh, Erie, and Buffalo Northeastern or Midwestern?
Northeastern 42 50.60%
Midwestern 10 12.05%
Mixed 31 37.35%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-09-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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I think this is an interesting way to look at it - makes sense to me and a lot will be based the individual perspective

These places sort of don't fit perfectly into either really but could have enough similarities to draw comparisons to both in ome ways
That's why Pitt/Erie are generally categorized as rust belt (and Pittsburgh doesn't sit too far outside the edges of Appalachia either). It's a zone that doesn't fall particularly well into either northeast or midwest conventions.

Buffalo I'd tend to agree is more northeastern.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:00 PM
 
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Pittsburghers May think of themselves as being in the northeast, but no one in the Boston-Washington corridor gives Pittsburgh any thought as to being a northeastern city.
Yep.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:19 PM
 
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The line between Midwest and East in my mind is the Cuyahoga River. That means the East Side of Cleveland, Youngstown, Erie, Pittsburgh, and all points East are all part of the East.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:43 PM
 
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I don't know. to me the northeast is anything east of rochester and anything north of richmond
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Old 04-11-2014, 07:24 AM
 
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I don't know. to me the northeast is anything east of rochester and anything north of richmond
No..... It doesn't work like that. All of PA and NY is in the Northeast.

Also, VA isn't in the Northeast.
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:03 AM
 
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No..... It doesn't work like that. All of PA and NY is in the Northeast.

Also, VA isn't in the Northeast.
You do realize that state lines are completely arbitrary. Why is Erie, PA Northeast, but Conneaut, OH, which is just over the border Midwest, even though there is no obvious difference between the architecture, or culture of the two areas? The regions aren't be as simple as state borders. They have more to do with other factors such as history, and culture.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:56 AM
 
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You do realize that state lines are completely arbitrary. Why is Erie, PA Northeast, but Conneaut, OH, which is just over the border Midwest, even though there is no obvious difference between the architecture, or culture of the two areas? The regions aren't be as simple as state borders. They have more to do with other factors such as history, and culture.
While I see and respect your point, all of the places in question are Northeastern. Keep in mind that NE Ohio was settled by people from CT and was a part of that state's Western Reserve. So, it isn't surprising to see similarities between NE Ohio and other Northeastern communities.

This doesn't even get into the variation within the Midwest either.
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Old 04-11-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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While I see and respect your point, all of the places in question are Northeastern. Keep in mind that NE Ohio was settled by people from CT and was a part of that state's Western Reserve. So, it isn't surprising to see similarities between NE Ohio and other Northeastern communities.

This doesn't even get into the variation within the Midwest either.
Agreed 100%

ALL PA & ALL NY = Northeastern
ALL OH = Midwestern

VA is iffy. I consider it Mid-Atlantic but some would say Southeastern
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Old 04-11-2014, 12:03 PM
 
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Agreed 100%

ALL PA & ALL NY = Northeastern
ALL OH = Midwestern

VA is iffy. I consider it Mid-Atlantic but some would say Southeastern
That makes no sense. If I'm in Ohio and walk 10 feet over the border into identical Pennsylvania, I'm in the East? Historical cultural influences have more to do with regional identity than state lines. Northeast Ohio is East of many points that are considered East Coast (such as North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida) so why does it automatically become Midwest just because it resides in a state that has been given some arbitrary label of Midwest.
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:05 PM
 
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That makes no sense. If I'm in Ohio and walk 10 feet over the border into identical Pennsylvania, I'm in the East? Historical cultural influences have more to do with regional identity than state lines. Northeast Ohio is East of many points that are considered East Coast (such as North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida) so why does it automatically become Midwest just because it resides in a state that has been given some arbitrary label of Midwest.
Sorry but OH is not on the East Coast
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