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View Poll Results: Are Pittsburgh, Erie, and Buffalo Northeastern or Midwestern?
Northeastern 42 50.60%
Midwestern 10 12.05%
Mixed 31 37.35%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-22-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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Speaking of Michigan, among Midwestern universities, the University of Michigan has historically attracted a lot of students from the Northeast region. Is that simply due to its prestige? The historic Yankee influence in Michigan? A more "Ivy League" looking campus? Policies more favorable to out of state students? Or is its location somehow more appealing and not dismissed as "flyover country" or "Middle America" in the same way say, Urbana-Champaign or Bloomington are.
It is due to its prestige. Its campus is spread through out the city of Ann Arbor, sort of. So, I don't think it is the look of the campus.

Michigan State on the other hand, had/has a lot of in state students.
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Old 01-22-2016, 05:02 PM
 
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It could also be argued that Buffalo lacks the Jewish aspect the Coastal cities have (though Cleveland and Detroit have it).

I think you have a hard time pairing Buffalo with NYC or Boston over Cleveland or Detroit. Sure, Buffalo has some characteristics that are distinctly Northeastern, but it has way more in common with Midwestern cities including proximity. It happens to be in the same state as New York City while being more similar to Upper Midwestern cities.
Buffalo has Jews with maybe some old timers on the North Side/Parkside/Elmwood Village/Delaware District and some in Amherst/Williamsville/East Amherst. Welcome!

JFed Bflo home page | Jewish Federation of Greater Buffalo

Jewish Genealogy Society of Buffalo

Young Israel of Greater Buffalo

Jewish Community Center of Greater Buffalo

Jews in Buffalo
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Old 01-22-2016, 05:06 PM
 
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Buffalo has a pretty small Jewish population overall though. I think Rochester has more.
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Old 01-22-2016, 05:17 PM
 
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Buffalo has Jews with maybe some old timers on the North Side/Parkside/Elmwood Village/Delaware District and some in Amherst/Williamsville/East Amherst. Welcome!

JFed Bflo home page | Jewish Federation of Greater Buffalo

Jewish Genealogy Society of Buffalo

Young Israel of Greater Buffalo

Jewish Community Center of Greater Buffalo

Jews in Buffalo
Buffalo is about as Jewish as Richmond, Virginia. Cleveland's Jewish population is seven times the size of Buffalo's.

Demographically, the difference between DC and Baltimore is more glaring than the difference between Cleveland and Pittsburgh-Buffalo. Yet we're willing to include to include DC/Baltimore in the Northeast but not Cleveland. What gives?
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Old 01-22-2016, 05:30 PM
 
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So is Italians the only thing Buffalo has in common with NYC?

-Closer to Cleveland and Detroit
-Built more like Cleveland and Detroit
-"Pop"
-Northern Cities Vowel Shift
-Rust Belt
-Stagnant population growth
-Large Polish population

Is it more similar to Cleveland or NYC?
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Old 01-22-2016, 05:40 PM
 
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So is Italians the only thing Buffalo has in common with NYC?

-Closer to Cleveland and Detroit
-Built more like Cleveland and Detroit
-"Pop"
-Northern Cities Vowel Shift
-Rust Belt
-Stagnant population growth
-Large Polish population

Is it more similar to Cleveland or NYC?
Is Cleveland more like a Northeastern city/area though?
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Old 01-22-2016, 05:42 PM
 
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Buffalo is about as Jewish as Richmond, Virginia. Cleveland's Jewish population is seven times the size of Buffalo's.

Demographically, the difference between DC and Baltimore is more glaring than the difference between Cleveland and Pittsburgh-Buffalo. Yet we're willing to include to include DC/Baltimore in the Northeast but not Cleveland. What gives?
Richmond is a bigger metro in terms of population and like I mentioned above, perhaps Cleveland is more like a Northeastern city/area. I believe that the Cleveland Jewish figures are essentially for the NE Ohio region. Did Buffalo lose about a third of its Jewish population within 10-15 years? Hmm...Also, if people are using the Wikipedia list, I know that Syracuse should be on that list, given that it had/has about 10,000 Jews around 2000 and I doubt that that many have left. http://www.city-data.com/forum/42655450-post51.html

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Old 01-22-2016, 06:03 PM
 
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Is Cleveland more like a Northeastern city/area though?
Let's see.

Do they say "pop" there? Check.
Steep population decline after 1970? Check.
West of the Chesapeake Bay Watershed? Check.
German the largest European ethnic group? Check.
Strong Polish influence? Check.
Core Rust Belt city? Check.
Wood frame houses with setbacks? Check.

Sounds like it could be Milwaukee or Detroit. Or Buffalo.
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Old 01-22-2016, 06:28 PM
 
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Let's see.

Do they say "pop" there? Check.
Steep population decline after 1970? Check.
West of the Chesapeake Bay Watershed? Check.
German the largest European ethnic group? Check.
Strong Polish influence? Check.
Core Rust Belt city? Check.
Wood frame houses with setbacks? Check.

Sounds like it could be Milwaukee or Detroit. Or Buffalo.
They sure as heck don't say "pop" in Milwaukee.
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Old 01-22-2016, 06:34 PM
 
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Let's see.

Do they say "pop" there? Check.
Steep population decline after 1970? Check.
West of the Chesapeake Bay Watershed? Check.
German the largest European ethnic group? Check.
Strong Polish influence? Check.
Core Rust Belt city? Check.
Wood frame houses with setbacks? Check.

Sounds like it could be Milwaukee or Detroit. Or Buffalo.
So, it has some things in common with Northeastern areas then.....Hartford and Springfield MA have a higher Polish percentage. Metros in Northeastern PA(Allentown and Scranton) have about the same German percentage, give or take, within their metros. Are Allentown and Scranton not Northeastern cities/areas? What about Hartford and Springfield? Its Irish percentage is in line with Bridgeport CT and higher than Baltimore's. What about Bridgeport and Baltimore?

Do all of these Bos-Wash cities have a large percentage of attached housing?
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