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Pittsburgh has more back-and-forth with Washington DC, Philadelphia and New York each than it does with Chicago. Honestly, if I had to figure out whether a city is located in the Northeast or Midwest, I'd ask one simple question: Does the city have a stronger migration network with New York or Chicago? If the answer is New York, then it's Northeastern. If the answer is Chicago, then it's Midwestern.
Also comparing this to Cleveland, while it's not much further west than Pittsburgh, the migration patterns are rather reversed with Midwestern cities being the top places where other people move in and out from. Even in Cleveland, the common state plates I saw were Indiana, Michigan and Illinois while here in Pittsburgh they tend to be Maryland, New York, and Virginia.
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And Maryland and DC aren't even part of the Northeast...how can BosWash determine all that is "really" Northeastern" if it's not even entirely in the Northeast itself?
Technically Maryland and DC are in the Northeast from a cultural, linguistic, and demographic standpoint. Btw, whoever repped me (not at anyone in this thread), I'll post all I want to, when I want to. If you don't like that, resign from city-data.
Also, white ethnic Catholics aren't nearly as much a presence in Maryland/DC as in the Northeast...in that "demographic" sense New York, Boston and Philadelphia have more in common with Rochester, Buffalo and Pittsburgh then they do with Baltimore.
Basically where do you think these cities ought to be grouped? My personal vote would be that they are a mix...not decidedly either one. Although, my tendency would be to group them in with Midwestern cities before cities in the BosWash corridor.
We don't get a "vote" on this. They are where they are.
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So someone from the Maryland suburbs of DC, say, can deem say, Syracuse or Pittsburgh "Midwestern"? Ridiculous.
Why not? Does one have to reside in the Northeast to know what's Northeastern or not? And you make a point, but that's only one similarity. And we know that Maryland and DC are influenced by the South...they are on the southern fringe of the northeast.
Why not? Is it some kind of official rule that what the government says is?
No, whatever we "vote" on here can come to pass. Please lobby the federal government to designate Buffalo to become a part of the Midwest, and for Minneapolis to become a part of the Pacific Northwest, along with Denver. For crying out loud.
In addition to the lower number of so-called "white ethnics", the state of Maryland is 30% Black. No non-Southern state has nearly that high a proportion. The Washington and Baltimore metro areas areas are both over 25% Black as is the majority of central cities - something no major Northeastern city can claim. How does that make their demographics so obviously "Northeastern"?
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