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It's not like anywhere instantly changes culture across a state line/regional border. These things are gradual. So yes, Pittsburgh/Buffalo/Erie are in the "Northeast region" but I'd imagine they share many similarities with Midwestern cities since they are so close. Not sure why anyone would be so offended by that.
Don't people in Pittsburgh/Buffalo/Erie call soda "pop"? Mmmh...
It's not like anywhere instantly changes culture across a state line/regional border. These things are gradual. So yes, Pittsburgh/Buffalo/Erie are in the "Northeast region" but I'd imagine they share many similarities with Midwestern cities since they are so close. Not sure why anyone would be so offended by that.
I don't know if anyone is offended, but like you said, people from those areas would say that they are from the Northeast.
We could also say that nearby areas of the Midwest has similarities to the Northeast. Cleveland was settled by people from CT and many names of towns/cities in MI are the same as towns/cities in Upstate NY due to people from Upstate NY settling in parts of MI. So, those parts of the Midwest could easily be viewed as having a Northeastern influence.
I don't know if anyone is offended, but like you said, people from those areas would say that they are from the Northeast.
We could also say that nearby areas of the Midwest has similarities to the Northeast. Cleveland was settled by people from CT and many names of towns/cities in MI are the same as towns/cities in Upstate NY due to people from Upstate NY settling in parts of MI. So, those parts of the Midwest could easily be viewed as having a Northeastern influence.
I guess, but you could say that about the whole country on some level. Is San Francisco "Northeastern" because many settlers came from there and Market Street was named after Philadelphia's Market Street?
I get your point, but there seems to be a large region and group of people between the major East Coast cities and Pittsburgh/Buffalo/Erie that would resent having anything to do with either of them.
It's not like anywhere instantly changes culture across a state line/regional border. These things are gradual. So yes, Pittsburgh/Buffalo/Erie are in the "Northeast region" but I'd imagine they share many similarities with Midwestern cities since they are so close. Not sure why anyone would be so offended by that.
I can come up with a few things people might think of being "Midwestern" or at least associated more with the Upper Midwest cities.
-Steel and auto industry
-White working class
-Fewer "latte" liberals
-More conservative Republicans
-"Humility"
Those are the big ones.
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I guess, but you could say that about the whole country on some level. Is San Francisco "Northeastern" because many settlers came from there and Market Street was named after Philadelphia's Market Street?
didn't realize San Francisco's was named after Philadelphia's.
We could also say that nearby areas of the Midwest has similarities to the Northeast. Cleveland was settled by people from CT and many names of towns/cities in MI are the same as towns/cities in Upstate NY due to people from Upstate NY settling in parts of MI. So, those parts of the Midwest could easily be viewed as having a Northeastern influence.
We could say that about much of the country. The backwoods of Virginia and North Carolina were settled by Scots-Irish and Germans from Pennsylvania, etc. The U.S. was settled by people moving from the East to the West.
I guess, but you could say that about the whole country on some level. Is San Francisco "Northeastern" because many settlers came from there and Market Street was named after Philadelphia's Market Street?
I get your point, but there seems to be a large region and group of people between the major East Coast cities and Pittsburgh/Buffalo/Erie that would resent having anything to do with either of them.
No, because SF has many more influences in comparison to those Midwestern areas.
I think those that may "resent" being in either are rural folks. With that said, it still doesn't make any of the three cities in question anything else, but Northeastern.
Aren't Norfolk, Charleston, Savannah, Miami, Jacksonville and even Richmond "East Coast" as well?
We could say that about much of the country. The backwoods of Virginia and North Carolina were settled by Scots-Irish and Germans from Pennsylvania, etc. The U.S. was settled by people moving from the East to the West.
So, how can the 3 cities in question be considered "Midwestern" then?
No, because SF has many more influences in comparison to those Midwestern areas.
Such as?
It's not like the Upper Midwest is 50% Yankee stock. Most of Wisconsin is people of German extraction who had little to no connection to any Northeastern state. Then you have Poles, Irish, Italians, Blacks, etc.
So, how can the 3 cities in question be considered "Midwestern" then?
Because they have similarities like heavy industry, a large White working class, more conservative Republicans, etc. In that sense, Pittsburgh and Buffalo have a lot in common with cities like Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, etc. That's generally why those types of cities get grouped together. They were all part of the country's industrial heartland.
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