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View Poll Results: What is the minimum population a city can have to be considered a "real city"?
500,000 38 36.89%
1 million 24 23.30%
2 million 15 14.56%
3 million 4 3.88%
Other 22 21.36%
Voters: 103. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-01-2013, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Austin
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When I think of real cities I think of the NE+Mid Atlantic and the midwest. SF Bay Area and LA are real too. Most cities in the south are so spread out that they seem to look country to me. Charlotte and Jacksonville look country except downtown. Atlanta seems real but again, only 400K something people living in 132 sq miles. Most major cites in the south are like large towns not cities. I wouldn't call Houston a city just a very large town/suburb.
So I guess Dallas, Miami, Austin, Nashville, New Orleans aren't real cities either. You should come down and visit because I know for a fact that these are all real cities.
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Calera, AL
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Anything less than 5 million people is not a real city. Disagree with me? You're a jealous small town hillbilly.
Atlanta, Boston, San Francisco, and Seattle (all of which are right at 5 million or under) are every bit the cities that Los Angeles, Miami, and NYC are. They all offer major sports teams, have IKEAs, are major ports/transportation hubs, economic powerhouses, and major draws for tourists and immigrants. Just because it's not a global alpha-plus city doesn't mean it's not a real city. It's almost the exact same thing, just on a slightly smaller scale. Sometimes, less can actually be more.
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Over-the-Rhine, Ohio
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When I think of real cities I think of the NE+Mid Atlantic and the midwest. SF Bay Area and LA are real too. Most cities in the south are so spread out that they seem to look country to me. Charlotte and Jacksonville look country except downtown. Atlanta seems real but again, only 400K something people living in 132 sq miles. Most major cites in the south are like large towns not cities. I wouldn't call Houston a city just a very large town/suburb.
I can't really speak for the rest of your post, but I have to agree with the last sentence. Houston is the prime example of a massive population living close to each other, but not creating anything of substance. I just cant bring myself to calling it a real city. I still remember the first time I went to Montrose (which is apparently a nice part of town) and getting the distinct feeling that I was in some ramshackle small town. Crumbling sidewalks, cheap street lights strung from telephone poles, parking lots haphazardly placed between buildings. It's shockingly bleak. I now understand that all if the money down there is spent on the insides of buildings and people there just don't care about aesthetics.
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Anything of substance? You guys are cracked out if you confuse the concentration of amenities in Houston as nothing of substance.

City data has messed up you guys brains into thinking a city had to follow a certain mold.

cities are centers of commerce, industry and entertainment. Arguably Houston is the 5th most city like as it has the 5th largest gdp in the country.

it has the busiest port in terms of ship movement and the most foreign exports.

It has one of the busiest airports in the country and two other airports.

The city proper is home to more f500 companies than any other city except NY.

its per capita income is in the top 5 of major cities.

It has massive theater and museum districts.

very few cities can match the city amenities in Houston and you say there is nothing of substance?

You guys are so ignorant
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:26 PM
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Anything 100 thousand and up, IMO.
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Paris
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I don't completely agree because the pedestrian-centric "hipster" fad is relatively recent and prior to it people would have had no problem saying an auto-centric city was a "real city." Asheville, NC is much as you describe Berkeley. It's dense, organic, funky, and draws people, but I would still call it a town.
Pedestrian-centric is hipster and recent??? Have you ever left the US???
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I can't really speak for the rest of your post, but I have to agree with the last sentence. Houston is the prime example of a massive population living close to each other, but not creating anything of substance. I just cant bring myself to calling it a real city. I still remember the first time I went to Montrose (which is apparently a nice part of town) and getting the distinct feeling that I was in some ramshackle small town. Crumbling sidewalks, cheap street lights strung from telephone poles, parking lots haphazardly placed between buildings. It's shockingly bleak. I now understand that all if the money down there is spent on the insides of buildings and people there just don't care about aesthetics.
Oh a New Yorker.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Shaw.
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I'm not sure a specific population matters. I think Wilmington, Delaware is a small city, despite having only 70,000 people.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:31 PM
 
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If it has a Major League Baseball or NFL football team, even if it plays in a suburban stadium.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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I would say Village 1-20,000, town 20,000-50,000, small city 50,000-150,000, city 150,000-500,000 big city 500,000 +
According to IL law, a municipality can call itself a city or village (never a town) with no restriction on population, though at this time there are no villages over 100,000. Either can be divided into wards.
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