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Old 03-30-2014, 10:55 PM
 
Location: NorCal by way of L.A. and Atlanta
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Lol Kentucky is definitely by no means part of the deep south, but instead upper south and not to mention that it borders WV which is also upper southern, and then OH, and ID which are Central Northern states or just simply part of The Midwest
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Old 03-31-2014, 11:40 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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I have spent a lot of time in soutwestern Ohio, an area that has had some considerable influence from Kentucky. Yet, when you cross the river, the southern feeling is palpable. The food, accents, culture, and to some degree, even the fora as mentioned.

I think your deep South friends have the attitude, "If it isn't exacly like home, it ain't the South." There -is- a distinction between Appalachia and the deep South, and the coastal South, but they are all the 'South' and only someone steeped in it is likely to make small distinctions that divide the region or even lead them to say one part is the 'real' South' and everyone else is just a pretender.
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Old 03-31-2014, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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When it comes to historical identity - North or South - I always think of Kentucky as I do the last kid chosen in a pick-up game of sports. The sides have to be even, right?
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Old 03-31-2014, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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When it comes to historical identity - North or South - I always think of Kentucky as I do the last kid chosen in a pick-up game of sports. The sides have to be even, right?
Kentucky gets dinged by deep southerners because they didn't secede during the war.
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Old 04-01-2014, 07:42 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Kentucky gets dinged by deep southerners because they didn't secede during the war.
This Deep Southerner loves Kentucky, nor do I know anyone that harbors ill will towards it. It's a beautiful state.
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:52 PM
 
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Kentucky gets dinged by deep southerners because they didn't secede during the war.
To be fair to them, North Alabama didn't really secede either. North Alabama and East Tennessee tried to form the state of Nickajack. As you can probably guess it was pro Union and anti-slavery. Since these areas had very few slaves to begin with they didn't see the need to fight a rich man's war for a cause they didn't believe in.

These remnants in North Alabama formed the 1st Alabama Calvary, on the side of the Union. They were popular for escorting General Sherman on his "March to the Sea."


This is largely ignored in history books, and we are lumped in with the rest of the state.


P.S. Kentucky is Southern to me.
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Old 04-02-2014, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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This Deep Southerner loves Kentucky, nor do I know anyone that harbors ill will towards it. It's a beautiful state.
I don't think anybody "harbors ill will" towards Kentucky, it's just that it's "southerness" is called into question because they didn't secede. Same with all the border states who didn't.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:30 AM
 
Location: West Tennessee
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I don't think anybody "harbors ill will" towards Kentucky, it's just that it's "southerness" is called into question because they didn't secede. Same with all the border states who didn't.
Which makes no sense since those events happened over 150 years ago. A ton of things have changed since then and Kentucky is more southern now than it was then in my opinion.
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Old 04-02-2014, 02:27 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Which makes no sense since those events happened over 150 years ago. A ton of things have changed since then and Kentucky is more southern now than it was then in my opinion.
I was watching Good Morning America this AM and they were chatting with a fan from KY in the audience. She was nothing if not Southern.
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Old 04-02-2014, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I don't think anybody "harbors ill will" towards Kentucky, it's just that it's "southerness" is called into question because they didn't secede. Same with all the border states who didn't.
This isn't really quite true. As someone who has studied border state Civil War history and is interested in "the south" I have seen some serious ill will connected with the war and "southernness" re the border states from some southerners. Most of that ill will though seems directed at West Virginia, although it was far more supportive of the Confederacy than Kentucky as recent research has shown. There is an interesting book called "Creating a Confederate Kentucky" from a few years ago that addresses post-war memorialization and public memory.
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