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Old 05-08-2013, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Its #4 on the list the OP linked to.
oh, sorry. I thought the list that Jtur posted was the list of cities in the op link. I guess i do need to click the link in the op as i am reading now that Jtur was referencing Forbes.

How could Forbes miss Austin?
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Hmm, the cities with the best freeways/highways have the worst traffic.
Not really besides LA. Honolulu, Austin, San Francisco (has a few pinch points if you know what I'm saying), and Seattle having the best highway systems?? I don't see Houston or Dallas up there and they have some of the best systems in the Country.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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Not really besides LA. Honolulu, Austin, San Francisco, and Seattle having the best highway systems?? I don't see Houston or Dallas up there and they have some of the best systems in the Country.
Houston actually reduce their traffic congestion from 2000 to 2010. That is quite a feat as the metro also grew by 25% over that period. Can't imagine adding 1.2million people to a 4.8 million metro and traffic getting lighter. I need to pull up three article again.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Houston actually reduce their traffic congestion from 2000 to 2010. That is quite a feat as the metro also grew by 25% over that period. Can't imagine adding 1.2million people to a 4.8 million metro and traffic getting lighter. I need to pull up three article again.
That's impressive! Good for them!
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:57 PM
 
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That's impressive! Good for them!
lol, it still is horrible, they just saves like two minutes from a 45 minute commute. LOL
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Not really besides LA. Honolulu, Austin, San Francisco (has a few pinch points if you know what I'm saying), and Seattle having the best highway systems?? I don't see Houston or Dallas up there and they have some of the best systems in the Country.
I was actually going off the Forbes list jtur88 posted with LA, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, etc; I didn't open the OP link as I thought they were the same.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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I was actually going off the Forbes list jtur88 posted with LA, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, etc; I didn't open the OP link as I thought they were the same.
Oh I understand. That would make sense why you said that then
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:24 PM
 
Location: SoCal & Mid-TN
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LA edges out Honolulu for worst traffic - NBC News.com

Worst traffic = LA from this recent NBC story. I'm in LA and it's terrible. Yes, there are a lot of freeways but there are a lot of people too. Public transport stinks and the area is just vast (queen of sprawl). Many freeways are old and have been overwhelmed for a long time now.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:55 PM
 
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LA edges out Honolulu for worst traffic - NBC News.com

Worst traffic = LA from this recent NBC story. I'm in LA and it's terrible. Yes, there are a lot of freeways but there are a lot of people too. Public transport stinks and the area is just vast (queen of sprawl). Many freeways are old and have been overwhelmed for a long time now.
So people don't commonly take public transportation to work in and around LA? Trains, buses, etc?

I am genuinely wondering. I've always been curious about LA's public transportation systems (or lack thereof…) and how much it affects traffic.

I have friends from around LA and they're so quick to tell me that LA traffic is the worst. I know it is, but if the city had useful public transit, maybe it wouldn't be as bad. The NYC area still has awful traffic (bridges and tunnels at rush hour can have delays from 20 mins to an hour and every other time of day there's usually a small 10-20 min delay, and that's on top of highway traffic) even though we have great public transit systems many people use to get to the city to work. I wonder who would really have the worst traffic if every city had equally good public transit systems as one another.

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Old 05-08-2013, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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No Chicago on there. The traffic here on the freeways (and other main arterials outside of downtown) can be absolutely terrible. My dad is from LA and the first time he drove in rush hour here he was all pissed and said "LA was NEVER this bad! This is terrible!" I remember this summer even on a Sunday, my girlfriend and I were returning from O'Hare dropping a friend off and it took us 90 minutes to get down to our exit about 6-7 miles later. I am so glad I don't have to deal with a commute on a few of the fwys nor do i own a car and have to deal with that crap.

I have also driven in Honolulu rush hour traffic. While there is a lot...it's not that bad compared to other cities like LA, Chicago, NYC, etc. Seriously, not even close. The "bad rush hour traffic" in Honolulu is about the same as Chicago on a Thursday or Friday afternoon at 1 or 2pm.
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