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Old 05-21-2013, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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^^^ Charlotte is not 3x the population of Raleigh on the city level and the two are nearly equal on the metro level.
Yeah, you're right. I thought Raleigh was much smaller than it is. But still, Charlotte has about 300,000 on Raleigh.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:20 PM
 
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Nashville and Mongomery may pass the largest cities in their respective states by 2020.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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^^^ Charlotte is not 3x the population of Raleigh on the city level and the two are nearly equal on the metro level.
With Charlotte's city limits over 300 sq miles against Raleigh's 143, there's no way that Raleigh is going to pass Charlotte in population. With all the adjacent municipalities hemming Raleigh in on most sides, I think that the city can't even get to 190 square miles unless they absorb some adjacent suburbs.
The only way Raleigh out-populates Charlotte in the future is if Raleigh consolidates with Wake County. Raleigh's and Charlotte's counties are currently neck and neck in population but Wake County is much larger than Mecklenburg and has more potential for future population growth. That all said, having Wake outgrow Mecklenburg is the only thing that is going to happen.
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:19 PM
 
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With Charlotte's city limits over 300 sq miles against Raleigh's 143, there's no way that Raleigh is going to pass Charlotte in population. With all the adjacent municipalities hemming Raleigh in on most sides, I think that the city can't even get to 190 square miles unless they absorb some adjacent suburbs.
The only way Raleigh out-populates Charlotte in the future is if Raleigh consolidates with Wake County. Raleigh's and Charlotte's counties are currently neck and neck in population but Wake County is much larger than Mecklenburg and has more potential for future population growth. That all said, having Wake outgrow Mecklenburg is the only thing that is going to happen.
And I'm pretty sure Cary would only let that happen over its dead body.
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:07 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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And I'm pretty sure Cary would only let that happen over its dead body.
It's not going to happen. Only desperation is going to drive consolidation and, as you know, Cary isn't desperate. At 145,000 people with some of the highest income levels in the state, it's also not without it's own power either.
I can imagine a scenario where Raleigh annexes Garner and possibly Knightdale but those aren't that significant and they don't really offer Raleigh anything for the trouble other than the right to expand beyond Garner toward the southeast.
In the end, it all doesn't matter to me how big the "official" city of Raleigh becomes on its periphery because I almost never go to those areas....including Cary.
For Raleigh, the future looks more like Miami's relationship to MiamiDade County. The county packs 2.6 million people in its boundaries but only 415,000 or so live in the actual city of Miami. Without much more significant annexation, Raleigh will probably get to 550,000 while the county will probably be pushing 1.4 million in the next 15 years. The city will probably grow more slowly after that while the county will continue to grow more rapidly. Cary will easily top 200,000 and a slew of other Wake County municipalities could be in the 50,000-75,000 range each.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:23 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Jersey City will pass Newark at some point.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Outer Boroughs, NYC
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@itjustgetsworse. Athens, GA (pop. 118,000, a consolidated city-county) adds only 1,700 residents each year. That means 28,900 more residents by 2030. 28,900 + 118,000 = 146,900. Unless there's some cataclysmic event in Atlanta, Columbus, Augusta, Macon and Savannah (no Jack Daniel's available at liquor stores perhaps?), all five of those cities will still outrank Athens in 2030. Isn't math wonderful?
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Charlotte again!!
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Yeah, you're right. I thought Raleigh was much smaller than it is. But still, Charlotte has about 300,000 on Raleigh.
1.1 million in Raleigh msa
2.3 million in Charlotte msa.

Charlotte is twice as big as Raleigh and denser. Trust me , it feels much larger....
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:47 AM
 
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As illustrated above....many Charlotte people are very insecure about the fact that the Raleigh/Triangle area is growing at a faster rate than Charlotte's and that the gap between the two narrows every year. I don't really know why they are so bothered by this as the rampant growth of the Triangle is actually pretty unflattering and was one of the reasons why we left several years ago. But still, Charlotte's metro does not feel much larger than the Triangle (as a whole, not the arbitrarily defined Raleigh MSA which is separate from the Durham-Chapel Hill MSA even though the two function as one metropolitan region in every sense of the word); and that's because it isn't that much bigger.
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