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Old 05-19-2013, 03:14 PM
JJG
 
Location: Fort Worth
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That was one mighty cold superbowl they had up there in Dallas I tell you what.
Just wait 'til this year...
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:29 PM
 
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The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Newport News, etc.) usually flies well under the radar despite its population. If we go a bit smaller, Fresno and the California central valley in general rarely if ever comes up outside of its own region. If the Fresno State Bulldogs weren't a DI football team, I doubt Fresno would be mentioned at all on national media, aside from the occasional episode of Gangland.

Speaking of Texas, while Ft. Worth is ignored, the whole Rio Grande valley might be the most ignored of all, relative to size. Much smaller cities like Amarillo or Lubbock are a lot better-known than McAllen-Harlingen-Edinburgh. Even Mexican immigrants from the cities directly across the border from McAllen-Brownsville seem to skip those cities for San Antonio or Houston.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Saint Paul and Fort Worth
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Old 05-19-2013, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Insert any twin city

Fort Worth

Oakland

St. Paul

etc.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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Insert any twin city

Fort Worth

Oakland

St. Paul

etc.
Uh, Oakland isn't even the most overshadowed city in the Bay Area.

Oakland has two big league sports teams named after it and another one playing in its city limits (for now anyway), plus an international airport. It is better served by heavy rail rapid transit, Amtrak and freeways than San Francisco, and it has the largest, busiest port in the Bay Area. Telegraph Avenue even runs from Downtown Oakland and ends a couple of miles north, at the edge of the finest public university in the US, in a directly adjacent city.

It doesn't belong on your list. For better or worse, Oakland conjures an image and identity all its own to anyone with any knowledge of major American cities.

Once again, you're talking about places you don't understand, as your view of the world outside Tyler is pretty narrow. I'm honestly not even convinced that you know much about Tyler.
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Uh, Oakland isn't even the most overshadowed city in the Bay Area.

Oakland has two big league sports teams named after it and another one playing in its city limits (for now anyway), plus an international airport. It is better served by heavy rail rapid transit, Amtrak and freeways than San Francisco, and it has the largest, busiest port in the Bay Area. Telegraph Avenue even runs from Downtown Oakland and ends a couple of miles north, at the edge of the finest public university in the US, in a directly adjacent city.

It doesn't belong on your list. For better or worse, Oakland conjures an image and identity all its own to anyone with any knowledge of major American cities.

Once again, you're talking about places you don't understand, as your view of the world outside Tyler is pretty narrow. I'm honestly not even convinced that you know much about Tyler.
I'd say it's overshadowed, and I don't live there.
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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I'd say it's overshadowed, and I don't live there.
Of course it is.

But it's a city of 400,000 with city-named big league sports teams, its own international airport and heavy rail transit. It has its own identity in the metro area. It's no St. Paul.
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Of course it is.

But it's a city of 400,000 with city-named big league sports teams, its own international airport and heavy rail transit. It has its own identity in the metro area. It's no St. Paul.
Hey now, St. Paul has a sports team, it's just named after the state like all the other teams because MN is hokey! But no Int'l Airport or movies filmed there (insert that gangster or Malcom X movie).
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Old 05-21-2013, 03:15 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Uh, Oakland isn't even the most overshadowed city in the Bay Area.

Oakland has two big league sports teams named after it and another one playing in its city limits (for now anyway), plus an international airport. It is better served by heavy rail rapid transit, Amtrak and freeways than San Francisco, and it has the largest, busiest port in the Bay Area. Telegraph Avenue even runs from Downtown Oakland and ends a couple of miles north, at the edge of the finest public university in the US, in a directly adjacent city.

It doesn't belong on your list. For better or worse, Oakland conjures an image and identity all its own to anyone with any knowledge of major American cities.

Once again, you're talking about places you don't understand, as your view of the world outside Tyler is pretty narrow. I'm honestly not even convinced that you know much about Tyler.
In the Bay Area Oakland may not be overshadowed but to the rest of the country its pretty much just some city across the bay from SF.
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:54 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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I'd say it's overshadowed, and I don't live there.
It is, but not even CLOSE to most overshadowed...

St. Paul is overshadowed, but call me when you have to constantly tell people that your city isn't a suburb, even though it's home to well over 700,000 residents and makes up about 2 million+ in a 6 million populated metro area...
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