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Old 08-07-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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Although we have seen devastating hurricanes in recent times in the NE, the gulf unfortunately takes the prize for being the most hurricane prone of all the coasts. I can't see developing it to the extent of the other coasts for that reason. Yes I know the West coast is earthquake prone; however, earthquakes are less frequent than are hurricanes. For that reason I just don't see the Gulf ever being on a par with the other coasts due to hurricanes. Unless maybe one day scientists and engineers will actually be able to control the weather. Not likely but it could happen as we don't know what the future holds.
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Old 08-07-2013, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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I wasn't aware that Pensacola was a major port along the gulf coast. I know it mainly for its beaches.

The main difference between the gulf coast compared with the east and west coast is the lack of major cities. Houston is pretty large, 4th largest city in the country now and growing fast, a huge industrial power and major sea port. New Orleans is roughly 1/6th the size of Houston but also a major port and center of Industry. I know Mobile has the same qualities, but it's much smaller, Mobile is barely half a million in the metro, and Pensacola is about 400,000 in the metro. I'm willing to count Tampa which is another large city, nearly half the size of Houston. Mississippi doesn't have too much going for it on the coast, Biloxi is all casinos and beaches, Gulfport has a little bit of activity though.

As far as the oil trade goes I think the Gulf Coast takes the cake, as far as population growth it's really not that close. New Orleans is growing, but it's mostly recovering lost population. Houston is seeing good growth, but the same can't be said for the Mississippi and Alabama coast line, growing very slowly, and same for the Florida panhandle.

I didn't really contribute much through my post, just rolling some ideas around in my head. Some other differences are the lack of mass transit in these gulf coast cities. I know New Orleans has a train or trolley system, but I don't think any of the other cities have truly effective and worthwhile mass transit like the east and west coast do. I wonder if it will catch up or be on par with the country's other coasts some day.
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Old 08-07-2013, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I don`t think the Gulf will ever reach the status of the east and west.The Gulf does not have as many metro cities just Houston, Nola,Mobile,Pensacola,and Tampa with Mobile and Nola being the oldest.
There are metro areas along every 80mi or so from Houston to Pensacola. Some are small but they are established metro areas.
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Although we have seen devastating hurricanes in recent times in the NE, the gulf unfortunately takes the prize for being the most hurricane prone of all the coasts. I can't see developing it to the extent of the other coasts for that reason. Yes I know the West coast is earthquake prone; however, earthquakes are less frequent than are hurricanes. For that reason I just don't see the Gulf ever being on a par with the other coasts due to hurricanes. Unless maybe one day scientists and engineers will actually be able to control the weather. Not likely but it could happen as we don't know what the future holds.
That may seem that way up in Shreveport but hurricanes will not hold the coast back.
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I wasn't aware that Pensacola was a major port along the gulf coast. I know it mainly for its beaches.

The main difference between the gulf coast compared with the east and west coast is the lack of major cities. Houston is pretty large, 4th largest city in the country now and growing fast, a huge industrial power and major sea port. New Orleans is roughly 1/6th the size of Houston but also a major port and center of Industry. I know Mobile has the same qualities, but it's much smaller, Mobile is barely half a million in the metro, and Pensacola is about 400,000 in the metro. I'm willing to count Tampa which is another large city, nearly half the size of Houston. Mississippi doesn't have too much going for it on the coast, Biloxi is all casinos and beaches, Gulfport has a little bit of activity though.

As far as the oil trade goes I think the Gulf Coast takes the cake, as far as population growth it's really not that close. New Orleans is growing, but it's mostly recovering lost population. Houston is seeing good growth, but the same can't be said for the Mississippi and Alabama coast line, growing very slowly, and same for the Florida panhandle.

I didn't really contribute much through my post, just rolling some ideas around in my head. Some other differences are the lack of mass transit in these gulf coast cities. I know New Orleans has a train or trolley system, but I don't think any of the other cities have truly effective and worthwhile mass transit like the east and west coast do. I wonder if it will catch up or be on par with the country's other coasts some day.
Mobile CSA has about 600k if I'm not mistaken, so it feels like a larger metro than 400k. Mobile was named number 2 metro in the country for economic growth potential. Not saying Mobile will explode but it's achievements haven't been ignored. Not sure how fast it is growing. Baton Rouge Named No. 1 Metro for Economic Growth Potential in Business Facilities 9th Annual Rankings Report

New Orleans is receiving much more than lost population, those people that are still gone are likely not leaving Houston or Atlanta to come back. Eight years is long enough. Baton Rouge is growing pretty fast as well, we will probably be near 920k for the next census. New Orleans might be near 1.4m. The CSA is already at 1.4m.

Governor Jindal rejected Federal dollars for a commuter rail between Baton Rouge and New Orleans, needless to say, plenty of people, especially New Orleanians were heated over the decision. One day we will have rail between the two.

One day our coast will be respected by the general public. Not saying we are going to be the next BosWash though.
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Old 08-07-2013, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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like you said... there is Houston...


where are these other cities that are supposed to grow. It's not going to happen in N.O., Gulfport, Lake Charles, Lafayette, Beaumont or Mobile... and Houston to Mobile is already farther than the distance from DC to Boston... I think Texas will grow to as big of a state population wise as CA with main cities of Dallas, Houston, SA and Austin, but there won't be a gulf coast corridor.



I don't see Tampa as part of it... you might as well include Atlanta with the Bos-Wash corridor if that's the case, it's just as far away.
Tampa is a coastal city and Atlanta isn't people just tend to forget that Tampa is a Gulf Coast city. Baldwin County Alabama is growing just as fast as Orleans Parish. And Annie is correct about the Mobile csa being over 600k.By the next census Baton Rouge should be in the 1 million mark and Mobile around 750k.

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Old 08-07-2013, 10:02 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Both Boston and Savannah are on the East coast. Tampa and Houston make sense as part of the Gulf coast.

I don't see why the Gulf coast can't become like the East or West coast. I don't think it will achieve that level of density, but it's possible.
Savannah isn't considered East Coast by what he is talking about. He is talking Bos-Wash megalopolis and SF-SD megalopolis. Savannah is the Southeast or Deep South.

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Tampa is a coastal city and Atlanta isn't people just tend to forget that Tampa is a Gulf Coast city.
What are you guys talking about have you looked at a map or how a connected corridor would form?
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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The Op mentioned East, Eest, and Gulf coast but he listed corridors .And last I checked Tampa was on the Gulf Coast.
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:28 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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The Op mentioned East, Eest, and Gulf coast but he listed corridors .And last I checked Tampa was on the Gulf Coast.
Umm...He's referring to that. I'm sure he's not talking about the entire area from Corpus Christi to the Keys...or Maine to Miami.

[LEFT]The east coast especially, from Washington D.C. to Boston lie tens of millions of people, the west coast from San Francisco to San Diego is also becoming our next Megalopolis.

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Old 08-07-2013, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Tampa isn't considered a Gulf Coast city. The culture is different, there's no French history. I wouldn't include it in this thread. Neither would I include Corpus Christi or Brownsville.
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:46 PM
 
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Tampa isn't considered a Gulf Coast city. The culture is different, there's no French history. I wouldn't include it in this thread. Neither would I include Corpus Christi or Brownsville.
Exactly, besides it's wayyyy far away. As I said, it's as far away from Mobile as DC is to Atlanta...
New Orleans, Houston, Galveston, Beaumont, Gulfport, Mobile, Pcola all share similar histories/industries.

There are more similarities like Pcola/Mobile/New Orleans carnival...and vietnamese populations from Houston to Mississippi, all big ports/tanker places...etc.
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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If you put it that way then I guess, lol.
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