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Old 05-20-2013, 11:27 PM
Location: Illinois
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Los Angeles and San Diego
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Old 05-21-2013, 02:06 AM
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, MI
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There are a lot of redundant municipalities in Michigan, and not just in the Detroit metropolitan area. It's really a mess.
A big element in this is the charter township system, which gives Michigan townships almost complete immunity from annexation by neighboring cities.
I know that towns and townships are different in different States, but in Michigan every county is divided into townships, except areas that have incorporated into cities; thus cities and townships are separate municipalities that are independent from each other politically. (Villages on the other hand are sort of proto-cities, in that they have their own governments, but they are located inside townships and share municipal functions with the townships they are located in.)
Most of the townships in Michigan are rural, which is how I imagine they were originally intended to be. Historically, as an area grew, it would incorporate as a village and then a city, sometimes inside or next to a township with the same name. As it grew, it would annex land from the neighboring township as needed.
However, in the late 40's, that system changed. They introduced the idea of a charter township, a township that was almost impossible for a city to annex or take land from. Not only did this stymie the growth of most of the major cities in the State, but it has resulted in a ridiculous system of patchwork suburban communities, all paying for separate municipal governments and municipal services. You'll cross from the city of Kalamazoo into the charter township of Kalamazoo, never noticing the difference unless you happened to spot a sign on the side of the road.

In Oakland county, there is a city of Bloomfield Hills, The Charter township of West Bloomfield and the Charter township of Bloomfield, all of which used to be part of Bloomfield township. There is a city of Royal Oak and a Royal Oak Charter township, a city of Southfield and a Southfield township, not to mention the seperate cities of Farmington and Farmington Hills, Rochester and Rochester Hills. Just a few examples, it's like this everywhere in Michigan. It really is a giant mess. Not that it will ever happen, but there needs to be a serious consolidation of municipalities in this State.

Annexing some of the charter townships and some suburban cities would really help some of the struggling bigger cities stay afloat and give the cities struggling to get noticed a real boost.
Grand Rapids, for example, is always trying to get noticed nationally as one of the major cities of the Midwest. People in West Michigan always ask things like, "when will Grand Rapids get it's own NFL team?" Grand Rapids is still a ways away from anything like that. They did just get their metropolitan area expanded to over a million people, which helps, but I'm sure having a city population over 200,000 or 250,000 would help a lot too. If they annexed, say, East Grand Rapids, Grand Rapids township, Kentwood and Walker, they'd be at 285,034.
Sure, a city population under 300k and a metro a little over a million isn't quite in the major league sports team ballpark yet, but it could be a good growth spurt away from one. You never know.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:51 PM
Location: Bishkek
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Charleston/North Charleston
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by igknighted View Post
There's a pretty clear east/west split along I93 of those "just north of Boston" cities... I think Cambridge/Somerville and MAYBE Medford could be merged, and separately Chelsea/Revere/Everett/Malden could be merged; but trying to combine the two would be a disaster.

I think combining Utica and Rome, NY might create enough critical mass to get something positive going for those cities. I also think that the NYS Capital cities could be merged. I never understood why Albany and Troy were separated.
There actually was a time when Watervliet was called West Troy. I think that the Glove Cities of Gloversville and Johnstown should be one city, as they actually adjacent to each other. Binghamton and Johnson City should probably merge as well. Same with Tonawanda and North Tonawanda, Dunkirk and Fredonia, Depew and Lancaster and Glens Falls and South Glens Falls.
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:49 AM
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Allegheny County, PA should have less than half the number of municipal governments that it currently has.
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Old 05-25-2013, 11:33 AM
Location: Wonderland
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Shreveport/Bossier City.
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:10 PM
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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St. Louis City and all the little Fiefdoms in St. Louis County
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Old 05-25-2013, 02:22 PM
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Los Angeles should absorb the cities that lie within its boundaries, like Santa Monica, San Fernando, Beverly Hills, and West Hollywood.
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:25 PM
Location: Birmingham
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Birmingham and Bessemer. (And tarrant, Brighton, Lipscomb, midfield and Fairfield)

All of these are adjacent, have the same demographics and the smaller ones are barely able to provide services because of tiny tax bases.
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:23 PM
Location: SoCal
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Los Angeles + Long Beach, Anaheim, Santa Ana, West Hollywood, Santa Monica, Burbank and the San Gabriel Valley should be all apart of LA proper. Ventura County and the IE should eventually be apart of LA MSA because seriously, it's all blending into one anyway lol
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