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Old 05-25-2013, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Metro Atlanta & Savannah, GA - Corpus Christi, TX
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Atlanta and Decatur, GA.
No way, no how. Decatur has its own identity over Atlanta.

On the other hand, Garden City, Pooler, Bloomingdale and Port Wentworth should merge with Savannah. After that happens, Savannah-Chatham County consolidation would be an even better option.
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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No way, no how. Decatur has its own identity over Atlanta.

On the other hand, Garden City, Pooler, Bloomingdale and Port Wentworth should merge with Savannah. After that happens, Savannah-Chatham County consolidation would be an even better option.
Decatur does have it's own identity, but more like a neighborhood of Atlanta. I would be for consolidation of these two...it just makes sense. Decatur wouldn't need to change in any way because of it.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Metro Atlanta & Savannah, GA - Corpus Christi, TX
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Decatur does have it's own identity, but more like a neighborhood of Atlanta. I would be for consolidation of these two...it just makes sense. Decatur wouldn't need to change in any way because of it.
It has a big enough downtown and identity, IMO, to justify being incorporated as it's own entity. I wouldn't compare it to places like Inman Park, Virginia-Highland or similar places.

On the other hand, there have been quite a few people ask why Buckhead isn't its own city.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Outer Boroughs, NYC
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@WanderingIm. Didn't you once live in Chatham County? Must not have been in 2001, when the seven incorporated cities near Savannah (led by Pooler and Garden City) were so opposed to Savannah-Chatham consolidation that their local legislators killed it in the study committee. Since then, these towns' state representatives have refused any talk of consolidation even if they could remain independent! They are proud, insular Davids who resent Savannah's Goliath. Also, Pooler, Garden City, and Tybee Island are VERY conservative, white and Republican (Tea Party wing) and they're opposed to big government in principle. Plus, they wouldn't be able to annex new neighborhoods if Savannah-Chatham were already consolidated. They have stopped consolidation for the foreseeable future. Columbus and Augusta are safe as "largest cities after Atlanta" (not Macon though--Savannah could well exceed consolidated Macon-Bibb in population by the 2020 Census).
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Metro Atlanta & Savannah, GA - Corpus Christi, TX
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@WanderingIm. Didn't you once live in Chatham County? Must not have been in 2001, when the seven incorporated cities near Savannah (led by Pooler and Garden City) were so opposed to Savannah-Chatham consolidation that their local legislators killed it in the study committee. Since then, these towns' state representatives have refused any talk of consolidation even if they could remain independent! They are proud, insular Davids who resent Savannah's Goliath. Also, Pooler, Garden City, and Tybee Island are VERY conservative, white and Republican (Tea Party wing) and they're opposed to big government in principle. Plus, they wouldn't be able to annex new neighborhoods if Savannah-Chatham were already consolidated. They have stopped consolidation for the foreseeable future. Columbus and Augusta are safe as "largest cities after Atlanta" (not Macon though--Savannah could well exceed consolidated Macon-Bibb in population by the 2020 Census).
I lived in Savannah between '91 and '11. I remember it very well. It was around the time the city and county police became consolidated.

My opinion wasn't really based on anything realistic. I know consolidation of all those communities would NEVER happen. I think it would make a lot of sense if it did though. None of those municipalities really have established downtowns/town centers. They're mainly a bunch of suburban sprawl.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Outer Boroughs, NYC
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I agree -- makes total sense, but common sense and Chatham don't often go in the same sentence. Merging Savannah with the unincorporated Five Islands and Georgetown would be hard enough, but Pooler and Garden City won't even allow that. Savannah's blacks also oppose consolidation and the preceived dilution of their power in the city. Meanwhile, "Tea Party" Pooler has been aggressively annexing and just passed 20,000 in the latest Census estimate.

Augusta consolidated in spite of racial opposition and polarization, but the city of Augusta itself was totally bankrupt and had no choice but a merger. Savannah is dynamic and prosperous (and famous), so there's no impetus for consolidation. Finally, becoming second-largest city in the state might be a point of pride in Columbus or Augusta, but Savannahians couldn't care less.
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Old 05-26-2013, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Atlanta & NYC
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Miami and a pile of other cities such as Miami Beach.
Miami Beach is a separate city? Dafuq is the point of that?
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Old 05-28-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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If we're thinking big, significant chunks of northeastern NJ should be part of Jersey City, Newark, Elizabeth, or Patterson, depending on the specifics. Or put them all together as boroughs of one city.
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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West Palm Beach & Ft. Lauderdale
Miami & Miami Beach
San Diego & Orange County municipalities
Riverside-San Bernardino-Redlands-Palm Springs
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Chicago and Milwaukee. Detroit and Toledo. Baltimore and Washington, D.C. Dallas and Fort Worth. Miami and Fort Lauderdale. Los Angeles and San Diego.
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