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Old 02-14-2014, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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I have never seen the Confederate flag in Texas.
Look harder. Go down some country roads.
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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Today Virginia became the first southern state to have a law prohibiting gay marriage struck down by a Supreme Court ruling. The South has been predominantly conservative on this issue. This is yet one more additional distinction between Virginia and other southern states.
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Old 02-15-2014, 06:46 AM
 
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Today Virginia became the first southern state to have a law prohibiting gay marriage struck down by a Supreme Court ruling. The South has been predominantly conservative on this issue. This is yet one more additional distinction between Virginia and other southern states.
Yes, good point. Also, this occurred in Norfolk, VA. I added that because I had a feeling the next response was going to say something about the law being struck down in NOVA.
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman Area
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Today Virginia became the first southern state to have a law prohibiting gay marriage struck down by a Supreme Court ruling. The South has been predominantly conservative on this issue. This is yet one more additional distinction between Virginia and other southern states.
Incorrect. The Supreme Court did not strike down VA's ban, but one judge ruled it was unconstitutional and there is a stay on the decision while it is appealed. So in reality, the ban remains, most likely until it is heard by SCOTUS, possibly years down the road.

What does this have to do with VA being southern or not?

California passed a ban on gay marriage a few years ago. Its like saying that made California a southern state.
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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As a state, Virginia is pretty southern with the exception of Northern Virginia.
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Old 02-15-2014, 04:49 PM
 
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=sweat209;33474447] The Texas accents is different types all over the state. I find Houston and Dallas more similar to the shows , where Fort Worth and Amarillo is not as strong and nothing alike.The suburbs in Fort Worth , Dallas and Houston probably less because of all the transplants.
Yes, this is very true. Just like there is no single "Southern accent" either. What does exist though, is a broad category of an even larger category that encompasses all those spoken in the United States. In this case, it is known as "Southern American English", and there are many sub-varieties of it. Even folks in North Alabama don't sound like South Alabama when it comes to certain features.

What there IS though, are certain features -- in terms of accent/dialect/idiom that easily distinguish it from the type spoken in the Northeast, Mid-West, or Far West (i.e. Pacific Coast, Mountain West, or Interior SW).

Bottom line is, in spite of many variations, people in western Texas have a greater kinship -- linguistically speaking -- with residents of southern Mississippi -- than they do with, say, Kansas or Colorado or Arizona. And it would only make sense, given settlement patterns...

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I have never seen the Confederate flag in Texas.
I am a little baffled by this one. Please clarify...

Have you ever been to Six Flags over Texas? To the State capitol? To any state tourist bureau in the state, or any other entity that displays the flags of the six nations that once claimed Texas? If you have? Then you would have seen a Confederate Flag. How could it be otherwise?

So again, I just don't understand this one at all (no offence intended! )
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Old 02-15-2014, 05:10 PM
 
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Texas is not conservative? LOL!

When you get down to it, there are only a few percentage points between conservative and liberal states. You have to remember that a majority doesn't mean that the entire state falls in line. Too many people seem to forget this. There is a large percentage of people in the South that doesn't agree with the majority.
Believe me, I know Texas is conservative. However, it's not very "southern" apart from a few areas. Florida and Virginia are very liberal for southern states, Southern Florida and NOVA are not even southern anymore. I'm going by the states that were Confederate, guess I should have said Florida and Virginia are more liberal compared to the rest of the south which is very conservative and Texas just isn't very southern at all.
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Old 02-15-2014, 06:06 PM
 
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=JayJayCB;33489872]Believe me, I know Texas is conservative. However, it's not very "southern" apart from a few areas. Florida and Virginia are very liberal for southern states, Southern Florida and NOVA are not even southern anymore. I'm going by the states that were Confederate, guess I should have said Florida and Virginia are more liberal compared to the rest of the south which is very conservative and Texas just isn't very southern at all.
Concerning the above (especially the bolded parts)? To say "Texas just isn't very Southern"? Well, this assertion needs to be qualified with at least some criteria of what you mean by "Southern"...?

If you mean that most of Texas is not "Southeastern" or "Old South" in the moonlight and magnolia sense? Then you would be right (except for East Texas).

On the other hand? If you make such a "blanket statement" as that "Texas just isn't very Southern at all"? Then I would think you would feel some kinda sense of obligation to give a list of just what characteristics make a state "Southern" or not...?

Don't you agree?

And by the way -- and I promise I am not being sarcastic in the least. I know some from the Deep South who don't consider North Carolina "truly Southern." Point -- at least on this point? -- is that anyone from a "peripheral" Southern state needs to be mighty damn careful when they take the position they are on "safe" ground in putting their own "Southernness" ahead of others...unless they can spell out the particulars...

In this case? What makes North Carolina more Southern than Texas? Keep in mind, I do believe NC is Southern. I am just wanting to know why you might feel different from the opposite direction...?

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Old 02-15-2014, 07:12 PM
 
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Haha. That's a good laugh. Charlottesville is southern. It's "high southern" to be exact. When you dress up for football games (with seersucker, bowtie and the Ray-Bans), drink mint juleps and bourbon, and pump Matchbox 20 in the parking lot, then it's southern. They don't do that in Princeton.

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Well it true southern states don't dress as casual as the west coast or northern states.But really have you been to Atlanta or Dallas? They far from being non casual.
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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Incorrect. The Supreme Court did not strike down VA's ban, but one judge ruled it was unconstitutional and there is a stay on the decision while it is appealed. So in reality, the ban remains, most likely until it is heard by SCOTUS, possibly years down the road.

What does this have to do with VA being southern or not?

California passed a ban on gay marriage a few years ago. Its like saying that made California a southern state.
I read an inaccurate article then. We'll wait and see what happens. It is still more progress than in other southern states. That cannot be disputed. As for California, that was a decison you would expect more likely in a southern state. I do not defend California on that even though I live here. I voted against that ban.

Virginia is southern, but not to the same degree as other southern states. Nowhere else in the South is a ban against gay marriage being challenged. Furthermore, proximity to Washington DC makes the northern part of the state less southern in character, customs and politically as well.
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