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Old 03-15-2014, 07:11 PM
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The problem is that if you include Delaware as one of the southern states, then that would make New Jersey which itself borders NYC and Philadelphia (both considered northeastern cities) would border a southern state and NYC would be only 2 hours away from a nearest southern state. So Delaware is not the southern state. It is a northern state like New Jersey and Massachusetts. Delaware is geographically northern, culturally northern, physically northern and politcally northern. People in Delaware eat cheesesteaks, soft pretzels, bagels and ny style pizza. Delawareans say Wooder. There are northeastern chains such as Shoprite, Acme and Pathmark and no southeastern chains such as Food Lion and Waffle House. You can see Philly skyline from Wilmington, and there is a bridge to NJ.
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:19 PM
 
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The problem is that if you include Delaware as one of the southern states, then that would make New Jersey which itself borders NYC and Philadelphia (both considered northeastern cities) would border a southern state and NYC would be only 2 hours away from a nearest southern state. So Delaware is not the southern state.
I don't really see the logic in that; after all, a border has to exist somewhere.

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It is a northern state like New Jersey and Massachusetts. Delaware is geographically northern, culturally northern, physically northern and politcally northern. People in Delaware eat cheesesteaks, soft pretzels, bagels and ny style pizza. Delawareans say Wooder. There are northeastern chains such as Shoprite, Acme and Pathmark and no southeastern chains such as Food Lion and Waffle House. You can see Philly skyline from Wilmington, and there is a bridge to NJ.
That's a better argument to make.
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Old 03-16-2014, 12:26 AM
 
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I don't see Maryland or Delaware as Southern states. As previously stated, they have too much in common with their northern neighboring states. Corporate Chains, accents, food, customs, etc, all point towards Northern influenced, in Maryland and Delaware.
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Old 03-16-2014, 11:49 PM
 
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The problem is that if you include Delaware as one of the southern states, then that would make New Jersey which itself borders NYC and Philadelphia (both considered northeastern cities) would border a southern state and NYC would be only 2 hours away from a nearest southern state. So Delaware is not the southern state. It is a northern state like New Jersey and Massachusetts. Delaware is geographically northern, culturally northern, physically northern and politcally northern. People in Delaware eat cheesesteaks, soft pretzels, bagels and ny style pizza. Delawareans say Wooder. There are northeastern chains such as Shoprite, Acme and Pathmark and no southeastern chains such as Food Lion and Waffle House. You can see Philly skyline from Wilmington, and there is a bridge to NJ.
Not an Intelligent Commentary.......

And Delaware does have Food Lion and Waffle House.......
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Old 03-16-2014, 11:52 PM
 
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I don't see Maryland or Delaware as Southern states. As previously stated, they have too much in common with their northern neighboring states. Corporate Chains, accents, food, customs, etc, all point towards Northern influenced, in Maryland and Delaware.
That would make Virginia and North Carolina Northern States too........
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Old 03-17-2014, 12:04 AM
 
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That would make Virginia and North Carolina Northern States too........
Not even a little bit
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Old 03-18-2014, 01:56 AM
 
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Not even a little bit
Which makes Maryland and Delaware Southern States........
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Old 03-18-2014, 04:18 AM
 
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That would make Virginia and North Carolina Northern States too........
Not even close. There aren't many Northern chains in NC, that aren't national. No WaWa's down in NC, no White Castle's, everything in NC is either a national chain, a Southern chain, or an NC original chain. Chains in NC---->Bojangles(NC Original), Food Lion(NC Original), Harris Teeter(NC Original), Waffle House(Georgia/Southern and expanding), Chick-Fil-A(Georgia/Southern and expanding nationwide), Publix(Florida, and expanding across the South), etc. There aren't any Northern chains in NC that aren't nationwide.
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Old 04-22-2015, 11:28 PM
 
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I don't agree with West Virginia being Midwestern at all. The northern third of the state is more like the western northeast than the Midwest. Eastern Ohio is even more like the northeast in my opinion.

I'd say the rest of the list is pretty accurate. I'd only tweak Maryland to 20 percent.

Also I don't like the term "northern invasion". Seems to forget that this is all one country.
I think some parts of West Virginia along the OHio River can feel more Midwestern, particularly Point Pleasant and Parkersburg and the surrounding areas. Those are also one of the few places with a lot of farmland and is flatter than the rest of the state. Wheeling definitely has the Rust Belt feel of Pennsylvania and northern Ohio though. I don't know if Huntington is more of a Southern or Midwestern city but it definitely isn't Northeast. I'd say Charleston and points south including Beckley, Lewisburg, Williamson, etc feel more Southern. Morgantown feels like a northern city.
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Old 04-23-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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Not even close. There aren't many Northern chains in NC, that aren't national. No WaWa's down in NC, no White Castle's, everything in NC is either a national chain, a Southern chain, or an NC original chain. Chains in NC---->Bojangles(NC Original), Food Lion(NC Original), Harris Teeter(NC Original), Waffle House(Georgia/Southern and expanding), Chick-Fil-A(Georgia/Southern and expanding nationwide), Publix(Florida, and expanding across the South), etc. There aren't any Northern chains in NC that aren't nationwide.
There is a Shake Shack in Georgia and that is a local NYC chain. There are a lot northern chains that are expanding south and a lot of Southern chains expanding north.
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