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Old 06-04-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Ok then you have to argue that FDR and LBJ and other liberal Democrats were actually conservatives because majority of people in the south were voting for those types of candidates in the racist era. That doesn't make any sense.

I'm not going to get into the poverty thing with you again. It is funny to me you talk about poverty in the 'deep south' but not your own city which has a big rep for poverty.
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Old 06-04-2016, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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Ok then you have to argue that FDR and LBJ and other liberal Democrats were actually conservatives because majority of people in the south were voting for those types of candidates in the racist era. That doesn't make any sense.

There are more poor people in number living in blue states than down south.

St. Louis probably has more poor peple than SC's big 3 metroes combined.
The South sometimes will vote for nonconservatives but as a general rule it is conservative. You really don't have an in between view on anything do you?
In terms of poverty rates, no it doesn't. St. Louis also has a lot more RICH and middle class people than South Carolina does. You truly just don't get it.
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Old 06-04-2016, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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ok, well I'm going to stop talking to you about the south. literally everything you say about the south is negative.

you talk a lot about the south for somebody who doesn't live in it. You don't seem interested in what a person from the south thinks about it though.
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Old 06-04-2016, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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Ok then you have to argue that FDR and LBJ and other liberal Democrats were actually conservatives because majority of people in the south were voting for those types of candidates in the racist era. That doesn't make any sense.

I'm not going to get into the poverty thing with you again. It is funny to me you talk about poverty in the 'deep south' but not your own city which has a big rep for poverty.
The impoverished as a percentage of St. Louis and Missouri's population is lower than the impoverished as a percentage of the Southern states' populations. That's how you measure poverty. Of course you like to do things not by the book so I don't even see why I'm having this argument with you. You like to bend facts so they suit your point of view instead of accepting them for what they are.
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Old 06-04-2016, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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ok, well I'm going to stop talking to you about the south. literally everything you say about the south is negative.

you talk a lot about the south for somebody who doesn't live in it. You don't seem interested in what a person from the south thinks about it though.
You don't seem interested in facts.
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Old 06-04-2016, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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ok

i am going to implement a new policy on myself to not interact with the non residents of the south who say negative things about the south. Much of that is political I think.

you can't say LBJ, FDR, Woodrow Wilson were conservatives and the south voted for them for president. They were liberals, as liberals as Obama on economics and tax policy etc. The Democrat party owned the south in its racist era.

the point that I'm making is that 'less southern' should mean more conservative, not more liberal, if historical accuracy is desired.

this will be my last comment on this topic.

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Old 06-04-2016, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Albany, New York
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ok

i am going to implement a new policy on myself to not interact with the non residents of the south who say negative things about the south. Much of that is political I think.
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Old 06-04-2016, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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that was the expression on my face when you asserted that Democrats didn't win in the south, the Dixiecrats did.

have a good day
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Old 06-04-2016, 07:02 PM
 
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And Texas.
That isn't entirely true. Now Houston, TX maybe, but the rest of Texas would be country and southern.
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Old 06-04-2016, 07:04 PM
 
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I'd say Florida and Houston, TX.
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