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Old 06-06-2013, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Murica
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My friend is a political science graduate in the US, who is currently in a top law school. He told me one night while chatting, that after the "revolution" during the vietnam war, small legislation's introduced by executive US senate oversight commitees were created and rushed to make it illegal to not work in the US. These were meant to counter radicalism. He says they can be traced and referenced by tracing US code legislation of the following laws(I don't have their respective US codes):

1.You have to have two forms of ID to get any 3rd form of ID, along with billing or insurance data for a physical address with your name on it. School records, birth certificate, state photo ID, gov. SS card are only accepted
2.You have to have a photo ID and SS card to get basic education
3.If you are caught without a state photo ID you are arrested and fined, and only released after 3 of 6 forms of acceptable ID are presented. After 9 months you are shipped to a federal immigration detaining center till forensics can verify you. If you don't aquire ID within 6 months you're prosecuted. They do give a waiver to get started though.
4.There is a law that makes it illegal to be in any one commercial land without being a paying customer for longer than 1 hour. On residential and government property it's 3 hours or until a deed holder calls authorities.
5.Once you make over $500.00 in any tax period, you owe 25% on every $500.00 of those annual earnings.

He says there are more with property laws and business licensing and taxes. All are metrics in a suite of laws meant to control radicalism and social classes by segregating and detaining people who don't comply with economic structuring. These may seem logical if you've never been without money and work.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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I guess I've been a criminal for a looooong time then. Especially with that one hour limit thing.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:03 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You're being pwned, OP! It's all nonsense!
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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...no
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:43 PM
 
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I guess I'm going to risk arrest every time I walk my dog as who the heck takes ID to walk around the neighborhood. Oh wait, does the license on Fluffy's collar count ? Or only for Fluffy?

And the police better come out in force to arrest the groups of grannies and grandads that walk the air conditioned malls in the summer rather than take their daily walk in the hot sun.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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4.There is a law that makes it illegal to be in any one commercial land without being a paying customer for longer than 1 hour. On residential and government property it's 3 hours or until a deed holder calls authorities.
Isn't that what they usually consider loitering?
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:36 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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Isn't that what they usually consider loitering?
Except his friends is trying to convince him it is a federal law even though Federal courts have found many of the stricter state and municipality loitering laws unconstitutional.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:39 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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5.Once you make over $500.00 in any tax period, you owe 25% on every $500.00 of those annual earnings.
Tax rate doesn't hit 25% until you hit the $35,000 mark.
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Old 06-07-2013, 06:03 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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I don't remember such a law back then, but if so, it's not enforceable. I do remember the war protest movement and hippy days, and there was a lot of attempts to stop it. Cities have tried to pass homeless laws more recently, but in 2006 the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled that "making it a crime to be homeless by charging them with a crime is in violation of the 8th and 14th Amendments." Here in Seattle the police stand by and see homeless people sleeping in doorways and alleys or panhandling and do nothing.

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Old 06-07-2013, 06:09 AM
 
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There used to be vagrancy laws to that effect. In fact, Howard Hughes was once arrested for vagrancy, ie, having no visible means of support. Of course he was dressed like a bum and traveling around finding out what was happening in the real world among real people. He found out.
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