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I would argue Louisville is as liberal or more so than Columbus.
Really? How many republicans are in city government in Louisville? In Columbus there are ZERO. Columbus city council, mayor, school board, and now the main county government is all one hundered percent democrat.
As some have said, "this isn't your grandfather's Columbus." Columbus had a combo of democrat and republican leaders all the way until the 90s, then after 1999 each republican has been kicked off, and it seems nearly impossible to elect a republican mayor or city council member in the city.
Columbus is a VERY secular city, and if you are a republican in the Columbus city or inner-metro you are socially liberal, or you are asking to go against the cities secular, socially liberal values. It would be impossible for a candidate not for gay marriage, not for broad woman's rights, or whom doesn't have a very high standing on civil rights issues from even getting a look let alone elected in Columbus. Even the republican party is trying to run gay republicans in the city council races. Columbus also has a very very strong African-American political community, and political authority and power, in its house reps (Joyce Beaty, mayor, Michael Coleman, and city council and school board)
Not to mention all of Columbus' suburbs saw more democrat votes in the last major elections, growing against the national trend in the 04 presidential election where bush won nationally with a larger majority, in Columbus and almost all of it's burbs bush lost with a LARGER majority than his first race.
Here is an article linking talking about the outcome of last nights elections.
Positive vision won for party, Coleman says
Wednesday, November 7, 2007 3:49 AM
By Robert Vitale and Mark Ferenchik
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
DORAL CHENOWETH III | Dispatch
Mayor Michael B. Coleman, elected to his third term as mayor, hugs Hearcel F. Craig after Craig was elected to City Council.
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DispatchPolitics : Positive vision won for party, Coleman says Columbus Dispatch Politics (http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2007/11/07/ColMayCoun.ART_ART_11-07-07_A1_3H8CSTO.html?adsec=politics&sid=101 - broken link)
I think one needs to define what is liberal, conservative, and a category that is rarely ever mentioned Radical Liberal. I would say a city like Boston is liberal, while Portland, Oregon is Radical Liberal. Louisville and Columbus could be listed as liberal with a strong conservative bent just outside the city limits, and some of it within the city. Even Portland is extremely conservative when one leaves some of the city neighborhoods, its not that big a city to begin with. I think one finds liberal neighborhoods in a city rather than the entire package. Maybe San Francisco is the exception to that though.
Columbus is a VERY secular city, and if you are a republican in the Columbus city or inner-metro you are socially liberal, or you are asking to go against the cities secular, socially liberal values.
Amen to this, and everything else you stated here.
I am sorta like living proof of how much Columbus has changed in 20 years (too bad I didn't live here then...)
Today, I'm a relic from a bygone era, politically/socially. I reckon if I don't get outta here soon, they might try and put me in a museum!
"We live in a Democratic city," he said. "It's not our grandfather's Columbus, if you will."
This is because lots of people that have moved to columbus are from NE Ohio (a heavily Democratic area). I'm pretty sure that about half of my graduating class lives in the columbus area.
I think one needs to define what is liberal, conservative, and a category that is rarely ever mentioned Radical Liberal. I would say a city like Boston is liberal, while Portland, Oregon is Radical Liberal. Louisville and Columbus could be listed as liberal with a strong conservative bent just outside the city limits, and some of it within the city. Even Portland is extremely conservative when one leaves some of the city neighborhoods, its not that big a city to begin with. I think one finds liberal neighborhoods in a city rather than the entire package. Maybe San Francisco is the exception to that though.
Well said! I think this is very true. Louisville is so interesting because you have very liberal neighborhoods downtown, and then some suburbs which are as conservative or more so than any in America! I think the same can be said for Portland, and even more so for Columbus.
By the way, the majority of the city council is Democratic in Louisville. The city always votes democratic, and for heaven's sake, the Mayor is a Jewish Democrat and has been Mayor for 4 terms off and on now!
I stand by my argument that what kind of city has campaigns to tear down major interstate thruways through downtown?
Catholicism is a form of Christianity, though. How important is Catholicism to the citizens in Louisville? I'm living in a rather religious neighborhood here in Tucson and it seems as if some of my neighbors treat their religion as a status symbol. I'll never be their "equal" until they see me at their church...and see me driving a SUV.
Hmm, I have noticed that a little in Louisville. I am not a native but there seems to be a "click" of catholic people and they have all these festivals in the summer. There must be 100 Catholic churches in the city, and over 40 Catholic schools I think. Still, Louisville is a very liberal city inside the I-264 loop. And I am talking relative to mid sized cities here...of course San Francisco and Boston, etc are going to be much more liberal.
Columbus has a few suburbs that lean democrat (voting pattern wise), but the suburbs only saw Bush win by about 4-5percent in the last election, and the democrat vote growth has been growing much more than the republican (which is mostly shrinking) in almost ALL of Columbus' suburbs. If these trends continue, most of Columbus' burbs' will be split 50/50 (democrate/republican) or start to see a democrat lean. Also, Columbus is situated smack in the middle of Franklin County, Ohio.
Columbus has a population of 700,000
Franklin County is over a million, and includes most of Columbus' major suburbs. Franklin County went for the democrat the last 4 presidential elections. Yes, Franklin County never elected Bush. So to say that only Columbus city limits leans democrat is not totally true, and if you do want to say that don't forget Columbus city limits includes a decent amount of the metro being 222 sq miles, your not just talking abotu 60 sq miles of liberal city, your talking about 222, and some of that goes to suburban, rich school districts, and is still voting democrat.
I still never got an answer, I am just curious, is there republicans in Louisville's city hall?
yes, as the city of Louisville now includes the whole county, over 700,000 residents, and 385 square miles. None of the rebublicans are located in the actual urban city. There are 26 members of the Metro Council:
I honestly have no idea which ones are rebublicans, but I believe the ones that are are in super suburban locales like distrct 20.
Furthermore, since Columbus has only 6 or 7 council members, this is not an accurate comparison of the liberalness of each city.
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