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Old 07-10-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Miami, Fl
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In my opinion the statistics for MSA covers too much area. Urbanized area statistics seem to present a better representation of a actual city size. We all know that every major city outgrows its municipal boundaries. Any thoughts
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I personally think Urbanized Area is best.
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I think UA is a pretty good representation for most cities.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:34 PM
 
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In my opinion the statistics for MSA covers too much area. Urbanized area statistics seem to present a better representation of a actual city size. We all know that every major city outgrows its municipal boundaries. Any thoughts
The actual city does - anything more than 2000 sq miles from the core is sprawl
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Miami, Fl
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Urban Areas of the United States of America Population
(2010 Census)

1 New York--Newark, NY—NJ--CT 18,351,295
2 Los Angeles--Long Beach--Anaheim, CA 12,150,996
3 Chicago--Gary, IL—IN 8,608,208
4 Miami, FL 5,502,379
5 Philadelphia, PA—NJ--DE—MD 5,441,567
6 Dallas--Fort Worth--Arlington, TX 5,121,892
7 Houston, TX 4,944,332
8 Washington, DC—VA--MD 4,586,770
9 Atlanta, GA 4,515,419
10 Boston, MA—NH--RI 4,181,019

Top 10 Most Populated Metropolitan cities in America 2013 MSA

1. New York City Metropolitan Area MSA - 19,122,331
2. Los Angeles Metropolitan Area MSA – 13,040,952
3. Chicago Metropolitan Area MSA – 9,556,129
4. Dallas-Fort Worth Metropolitan Area MSA – 6,714,077
5. Houston Metropolitan Area MSA – 6,270,003
6. Philadelphia Metropolitan Area MSA - 6,027,226
7. Washington Metropolitan Area MSA – 5,837,363
8. Miami-Fort Lauderdale Metropolitan Area MSA – 5,766,061
9. Atlanta Metropolitan Area MSA – 5,480,754
10. Boston Metropolitan Area MSA – 4,628,910

Some MSA's cover entirely too much area. For example Atlanta covers over 30 counties, including some parts of Alabama. But when it comes to urbanized area it doesn't rank in the top 10. I agree with Cold as Ice...anything more than 2000 sq miles is just spwal
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Urbanized Area, but it isn't perfect either. L.A.'s true size is closer to 15 million. MSA and UA undersell its size, CSA oversells it.

The Bay Area ring, which is really one urban area, is around 5 million people. No measurement (UA, MSA, CSA) is 100% accurate for that city, to point where it doesn't crack the top 10 among largest MSAs, which is silly.

Looking at the numbers, DC and Dallas receive the largest bump from UA to MSA. Miami gets almost no bump.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:42 PM
 
Location: East side - Metro ATL
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Urban Areas of the United States of America Population
(2010 Census)

1 New York--Newark, NY—NJ--CT 18,351,295
2 Los Angeles--Long Beach--Anaheim, CA 12,150,996
3 Chicago--Gary, IL—IN 8,608,208
4 Miami, FL 5,502,379
5 Philadelphia, PA—NJ--DE—MD 5,441,567
6 Dallas--Fort Worth--Arlington, TX 5,121,892
7 Houston, TX 4,944,332
8 Washington, DC—VA--MD 4,586,770
9 Atlanta, GA 4,515,419
10 Boston, MA—NH--RI 4,181,019

Top 10 Most Populated Metropolitan cities in America 2013 MSA

1. New York City Metropolitan Area MSA - 19,122,331
2. Los Angeles Metropolitan Area MSA – 13,040,952
3. Chicago Metropolitan Area MSA – 9,556,129
4. Dallas-Fort Worth Metropolitan Area MSA – 6,714,077
5. Houston Metropolitan Area MSA – 6,270,003
6. Philadelphia Metropolitan Area MSA - 6,027,226
7. Washington Metropolitan Area MSA – 5,837,363
8. Miami-Fort Lauderdale Metropolitan Area MSA – 5,766,061
9. Atlanta Metropolitan Area MSA – 5,480,754
10. Boston Metropolitan Area MSA – 4,628,910

Some MSA's cover entirely too much area. For example Atlanta covers over 30 counties, including some parts of Alabama. But when it comes to urbanized area it doesn't rank in the top 10. I agree with Cold as Ice...anything more than 2000 sq miles is just spwal

In the statistics you mentioned above, Atlanta comes in number 9 in both UA and MSA. And we have mentioned time and time again that Georgia counties are small. Georgia has the most counties of any state outside of Texas. The Core counties of Atlanta are Fulton, Gwinnett, Clayton and Cobb. That is where the majority of residents in the metro area live, FYI.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Largest UAs by land area

1. New York -3450 sq miles
2. Atlanta - 2645 sq miles
3. Chicago - 2443 sq miles
4. Philadelphia -1981 sq miles
5. Boston -1873 sq miles
6. Dallas -1779 sq miles
7. Los Angeles - 1736 sq miles
8. Houston - 1660 sq miles
9. Detroit - 1337 sq miles
10. Washington - 1322 sq miles
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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In Philadelphia's case I would say neither metric represents the true size of the city. Although for most cities, the urban area metric works well. Especially for cities like Miami as it's MSA and urban area are basically the same thing.
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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Largest UAs by land area

1. New York -3450 sq miles
2. Atlanta - 2645 sq miles
3. Chicago - 2443 sq miles
4. Philadelphia -1981 sq miles
5. Boston -1873 sq miles
6. Dallas -1779 sq miles
7. Los Angeles - 1736 sq miles
8. Houston - 1660 sq miles
9. Detroit - 1337 sq miles
10. Washington - 1322 sq miles
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on just a minute, are you actually telling me NYC is the most sprawly metro well I'll be a monkey's uncle
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