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How do you define that though? I think being "Southern" certainly has a cultural context to it as well. As does being "Northern". For instance, one might be from Arizona and still be considered a "Northerner" culturally, despite Arizona being in the southwest.
They'd be a Westerner. Stereotypical Southerners are honey boo boo and you know what I'm saying. Miami being outside of that doesn't change the fact that it's southern by location. I don't think it should be ruled out based on that, it forms much if not most of Florida's culture, which is an undoubtedly southern state.
They'd be a Westerner. Stereotypical Southerners are honey boo boo and you know what I'm saying. Miami being outside of that doesn't change the fact that it's southern by location. I don't think it should be ruled out based on that, it forms much if not most of Florida's culture, which is an undoubtedly southern state.
Why would they be a westerner if Arizona is located in a geographically southern state? While someone from the same latitude in Georgia is considered a southerner? Aren't your definitions cultural?
Without a perceived cultural definition the entire sunbelt should be considered apart of the "southern" states. If we're going strictly by geography.
Why would they be a westerner if Arizona is located in a geographically southern state? While someone from the same latitude in Georgia is considered a southerner? Aren't your definitions cultural?
Without a perceived cultural definition the entire sunbelt should be considered apart of the "southern" states. If we're going strictly by geography.
Well yes, a Southwestern state to be exact. But you know what I mean.
I agree that it's offensive to define "southern" in such a way that it explicitly excludes black southerners from the definition. If you want to talk about white southern culture, be explicit about it, do not act as if black people either don't exist, or don't count as being southern.
There are of course things that black and white southern culture share in common however, such as a strong attachment to the church, similar cuisine, and general friendliness.
Why would they be a westerner if Arizona is located in a geographically southern state? While someone from the same latitude in Georgia is considered a southerner? Aren't your definitions cultural?
Without a perceived cultural definition the entire sunbelt should be considered apart of the "southern" states. If we're going strictly by geography.
At a certain point you'll stop being Northern, Midwestern, or Southern and just become Western. MT, WY, CO, & NM are the start of the West. A person from AZ may have some ideals they share with someone from the North but they're culturally different from one another. Using geography for states that are on the opposite ends of the country (AZ/GA) is kind of pointless because there isn't anything that could tie them in terms of history, culture, weather, terrain, demographics, and whatever else that you can think of. A couple of political ideals does not equal culture.
At a certain point you'll stop being Northern, Midwestern, or Southern and just become Western. MT, WY, CO, & NM are the start of the West. A person from AZ may have some ideals they share with someone from the North but they're culturally different from one another. Using geography for states that are on the opposite ends of the country (AZ/GA) is kind of pointless because there isn't anything that could tie them in terms of history, culture, weather, terrain, demographics, and whatever else that you can think of. A couple of political ideals does not equal culture.
That's what I mean. "The South" is a cultural term, which usually denotes only the states that lie in the south-eastern part of the United States that encompass that culture. It's defined by the culture shared by the people of that region. Therefor I think south Florida is exceptional and not apart of the true south because it is basically as northern as Massachusetts is culturally. Just because it is located in the southern part of the United States, not unlike Arizona is, does not make it a apart of "the south".
I think Texas is a region in and of itself.
By "southern Americans" I am assuming the OP is referring to people within the cultural region of the south. Otherwise there is no reason to leave out Arizonans, New Mexicans, and Californians really.
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That's what I mean. "The South" is a cultural term, which usually denotes only the states that lie in the south-eastern part of the United States that encompass that culture. It's defined by the culture shared by the people of that region. Therefor I think south Florida is exceptional and not apart of the true south because it is basically as northern as Massachusetts is culturally. Just because it is located in the southern part of the United States, not unlike Arizona is, does not make it a apart of "the south".
I think Texas is a region in and of itself.
By "southern Americans" I am assuming the OP is referring to people within the cultural region of the south. Otherwise there is no reason to leave out Arizonans, New Mexicans, and Californians really.
I still wouldn't call a person from Miami a "southern American" though, and I think most definitions would suggest they are not as well.
I'd call black people from that area southern. Went to college with a guy from West Palm Beach and he was as southern as the rest of us.
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