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Old 11-15-2007, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Boring Rectangular Places: Dakotas
LOL

Loved the description, but the Dakotas are really unique places, and quite beautiful!!!! I take it you havent been there before? South Dakota is especially beautiful in alot of areas.

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Old 11-15-2007, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Thanks for the map, Colts! One thing I still don't get here, is where the plains begin and end. One thing I've frequently heard is "the 100th meridian" separating the dry west from the humid east. I've heard people say that if you drive east on I-70, around Salina, KS, you can see the landscape become greener and less wide-open. So if that's true, why are there people who say Kansas City, several hundred miles east of that, isn't a real midwestern city? How far east do you have to go before the stereotypical Kansas/Nebraksa look ends? The middle of Kansas? The Missouri river? Halfway through the state of MO?

Here's another big question I'm interested in: what parts of the midwest are naturally forested? I love trees, and I would love to live in a city that is literally carved into a forest instead of having just trees planted by man. What I have in mind is what the Washington, DC area looks like. Is there anything like that in the midwest?
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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I would extend the Great Plains area further to the east in Nebraska and Kansas. West of Topeka, KS and Omaha/Lincoln NE it is pretty much the Great Plains in my opinion.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL; Upstate NY native
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Great map! My husband likes the fact that someone actually acknowledges eastern Ohio is distinct from the rest of the state. And as someone who travelled to the southern parts of Illinois and Missouri, the red southern parts are accurate too. Although I do think some parts of southern Indiana could be red too, especially the area around Evansville, and probably Louisville's Indiana suburbs.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:29 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Upperland: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan
Lowerland: Iowa, Missouri, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois
Boring Rectangular Places: Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas

You've got the rustbelt, the cornbelt, and the Dakotas
Rustbelt and cornbelt intersect in Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, and even Iowa, although the general definition of the rustbelt ends with a couple of arms around Milwaukee and Rockford.

St. Louis is somewhat unique in that it feels southern, although Indianapolis is "southern" for me as well.

Amish country is found mostly in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and Iowa. Maybe Missouri?
The cornbelt also covers quite an extensive portion of Missouri as well. Cornfields can be found as far south as Joplin and Monett in Missouri, and they do grow in the Ozarks as well. I'd say Missouri is roughly about 80% in the cornbelt. The cornbelt even covers the northernmost portions of Kentucky and Northeastern Oklahoma, though the land in Oklahoma may be irrigated.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Yes, I've been to Wall Drug and the Corn Palace. I'm not enthralled by the Badlands or Mount Rushmore.

There is no Upper Midwest in Indiana or Ohio. Try that map again.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:37 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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There are not quite as many Amish in Missouri is Indiana or Ohio, that's for sure, but we definitely have Amish communities living here. Mostly Old Order I believe. They can be found as far south as U.S. Highway 60, in extreme Southern Missouri, although that region is more Southern than Midwestern, as defined by Colts' map.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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I have seen maps that put amish folks in Tennessee as well and Tennessee is definately South!
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:23 AM
 
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Yes, I've been to Wall Drug and the Corn Palace. I'm not enthralled by the Badlands or Mount Rushmore.

There is no Upper Midwest in Indiana or Ohio. Try that map again.
Sorry, nope. While I think Ohio and Indiana are generally more in line with the Lower Midwest, the accents and topography of northern Indiana/Ohio are noticeably similar to much of Michigan for example. That's like saying there's no Southern areas in Missouri.

And besides--the United States Census, National Weather Service, Library of Congress, and United States Geological Survey all define the "Upper Midwest" as being comprised of the states of Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:32 AM
 
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The cornbelt also covers quite an extensive portion of Missouri as well. Cornfields can be found as far south as Joplin and Monett in Missouri, and they do grow in the Ozarks as well. I'd say Missouri is roughly about 80% in the cornbelt. The cornbelt even covers the northernmost portions of Kentucky and Northeastern Oklahoma, though the land in Oklahoma may be irrigated.
You know ajf, I just love it when we actually agree on things
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