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View Poll Results: Is OH more like the Dakotas than like the Northeast?
Yes, because it's Midwestern 7 8.75%
No, despite being Midwestern I still think it's more like the Northeast 73 91.25%
Voters: 80. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-22-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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No. A large portion of Ohio, Cleveland, Youngstown, Akron, Toledo are rust belt type cities. A lot of Eastern Ohio is very similar to Western PA, and extremely different from the Dakotas.

Even aspects like the Polish, Slovak, Italian etc. populations are very, very Northeastern, Mid-Atlantic. The "Midwestern" and "Northeastern" blanket statements are far too broad. Places like Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Johnstown, Binghamton, Scranton, Youngstown, Cleveland all feel similar to me, despite stretching across different regions.
I guess you could almost make the Great Lakes region and the "Rust Belt" synonymous.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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I guess you could almost make the Great Lakes region and the "Rust Belt" synonymous.
I think there's some truth to that. Specifically, the similarities really seem to be between the interior Northeast and the Upper Midwest.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:43 PM
 
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Ohio is absolutely nothing like the Dakotas.
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:20 PM
 
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No, Toledo is more "rust-belt" than farm belt.

Toledo is surrounded by flat farm country.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:30 AM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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Sounds like a trolling post to riff on that idiotic "Ohio is REALLY part of the Northeast!!!!" ongoing theme here....
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:12 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Toledo is surrounded by flat farm country.
Buffalo, New York is surrounded by flat farm country.

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Sounds like a trolling post to riff on that idiotic "Ohio is REALLY part of the Northeast!!!!" ongoing theme here....
Really? It must be your perspective. I see this as a riff on the the emerging "Ohio is not like the Dakotas!!!!!" theme.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Montreal
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I guess you could almost make the Great Lakes region and the "Rust Belt" synonymous.
Let's call that region the "Near West", in analogy to the "Near East" with respect to the "Middle East"! That way, we could say that the likes of Buffalo, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland are in the Near West while cities like Chicago, Milwaukee, and St. Louis are in the Midwest proper. And it is a succession from Near West to the Midwest to the West (as in the Plains/Rockies westward)!
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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I would probably say that Ohio, while it's Midwestern, has more in common with New York and Pennsylvania, specifically Western New York and Western Pennsylvania, which really are nothing like the rest of the Northeast. I really don't understand why people think Pittsburgh has more in common with Philadelphia than Cleveland. It really doesn't. There is absolutely zero difference between Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo and Pittsburgh IMO. I would also say that cities along the Mississippi River in Missouri, Iowa, and Minnesota share more commonalities with Western Pennsylvania than the Dakotas.

Essentially, Western New York and Western Pennsylvania I would argue should be considered part of the Midwest. They really are nothing like the BosWash corridor at all. The Eastern Midwest certainly has its differences from the Western Midwest.

Then again, Texas and Oklahoma have vast differences from places like Tennessee and South Carolina. Regional diversity exists, but as far as the Northeast goes, there is no question that the Great Lakes/Rust Belt region should be considered Midwestern...it is absolutely NOTHING like the Northeast core.
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:59 PM
 
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No, of course not. North Dakota has 700,000 people, South Dakota has 800,000, and Ohio has 11.5 million.


However, the poll options are annoying. How about just letting people answer 'yes' or 'no', or providing numerous options, rather than forcing them to choose one of your two reasons?
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Ohio - Partly Appalachian, contains major cities, agricultural, great lakes, rust belt, low glacial plains, heavily populated, eastern US.

New York - Partly Appalachian, contains major cities, agricultural, great lakes, rust belt, low glacial plains, heavily populated, coastal, eastern US.

Pennsylvania - Appalachian, contains major cities, great lakes, rust belt, heavily populated, eastern US.

North Dakota - Land locked, high plains, mostly flat, no major cities, thinly populated, majorly agricultural, central/western US.

South Dakota - Land locked, high plains, mostly flat, contains the black hills, no major cities, thinly populated, majorly agricultural, central/western US.

And that doesn't account for racial diversity either.

I think it's pretty obvious. Ohio is much more like PA and NY.
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