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Old 09-22-2013, 04:52 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I absolutely hate this argument. We are a world full of different and cultured nations. Why would you want to forget that?
I love being black, love being creole. I would never denounce that because people think that will kill racism. Suppressing our differences will only add dynamite to the fire, we need to celebrate our differences and embrace them.
I'm talking about within the United States not the whole World.
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Old 09-22-2013, 04:54 PM
 
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Let's be real: you do unless you're blind. The only people who tend to say "they don't see race" are people who aren't minorities and have no idea what the lived experience of one is like who have to deal with subtle forms of prejudice. It's sometimes well intentioned, but regardless, it closes the door for any meaningful discussion about race and opens another where any sort of inequality is the result of divorced from institutional forces.
I never said "i don't see race" i see and notice people who are Asian, Black etc... but i don't make a big deal about it. They're most likely pretty similar to myself considering they're human and we live in the same country, speak the same language, watch the same sports, celebrate the same holidays, etc..
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I'm talking about within the United States not the whole World.
We are a nation of immigrants. We are the world.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:05 PM
 
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The problem with discussions about "diversity" on here is that there's a lot of posters who have this sort of juvenile way of looking at it only in terms of statistics and as some sort of contest to rank cities.

Anyone who thinks that "diversity" can only be defined by census racial statistics needs to get out more.

I had a ethnically diverse group of friends at various times growing up--at the same time most of the time culturally they weren't much different than me. Sure their grandparents(or sometimes parents) might have been from China or Korea or Lebanon or Mexico or Pakistan or Ukraine--but by the second or third generation in the states, they were about as close to the culture as I am to my Polish ancestors. On the other hand I remember meeting white people from the South, who were technically the same ethnicity as me, yet I feel I have little in common with in terms of cultural background.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:07 PM
 
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We are a nation of immigrants. We are the world.
We do have alot of immigrants (40 million) but we have a total of 300 million people.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:08 PM
 
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We do have alot of immigrants (40 million) but we have a total of 300 million people.
Is there more to this post?
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:17 PM
 
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I never said "i don't see race" i see and notice people who are Asian, Black etc... but i don't make a big deal about it. They're most likely pretty similar to myself considering they're human and we live in the same country, speak the same language, watch the same sports, celebrate the same holidays, etc..
We might live in the same country, but this country is also 3000 miles long and there are regional differences in culture that vary by group. Just think for instance the amount of prejudice latinos face in the west because people think they're "illegal" or blacks receive when they embrace vernacular dialect because some people think it's not "real english". I think you're well intentioned, but I think you should keep in mind that prejudice is alive,well, and hidden.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:20 PM
 
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The problem with discussions about "diversity" on here is that there's a lot of posters who have this sort of juvenile way of looking at only in terms of statistics and as some sort of contest to rank cities.
I don't know if it's actually an obsession with race or it's just the nature of the "My City Can Beat Up Your City" type threads where people are scrambling for any kind of quantifiable data showing that one city is better than another. I think that ethnic diversity is a good thing and other things being equal would prefer to live in a more diverse city. However, I think intellectual diversity is infinitely more meaningful, but not many people seem to value intellectual diversity.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:21 PM
 
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We might live in the same country, but this country is also 3000 miles long and there are regional differences in culture that vary by group. Just think for instance the amount of prejudice latinos face in the west because people think they're "illegal" or blacks receive when they embrace vernacular dialect because some people think it's not "real english". I think you're well intentioned, but I think you should keep in mind that prejudice is alive,well, and hidden.
Oh i know i know prejudice is alive and well, sometimes blown out of proportion by the media and sensitive people who scream "racist!" every time someone gives them the wrong look. but yea it still exist.

Especially with all the labeling, Americans are mostly very integrated and we are mostly a melting pot nation compared to most nations. just the labeling and the race obsession is a big problem.
We can't segregate ourselves by what country our great great great grandparents come from.
You see Swedish flags all over MN on cars and houses but most of the people can't name a city in Sweden other than Stockholm and they watch American football at home and eat Hamburgers
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:30 PM
 
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We might live in the same country, but this country is also 3000 miles long and there are regional differences in culture that vary by group. Just think for instance the amount of prejudice latinos face in the west because people think they're "illegal" or blacks receive when they embrace vernacular dialect because some people think it's not "real english". I think you're well intentioned, but I think you should keep in mind that prejudice is alive,well, and hidden.
Exactly if we are going to identify with ourselves, do it by our state/region/country over our racial background. Saying i'm "African - American" is too broad because African - Americans have so many similarities to Asian - Americans, Hispanic - Americans, White - Americans, etc....
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