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Old 09-23-2013, 11:53 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Nevada is the state with the most violent crimes?

Wow guess America really ain't that dangerous.
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Old 09-24-2013, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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No. There are no gangs in south Louisiana, maybe a little influence from Texas in Lake Charles. There are no bloods, crips, Latin Kings, MS13, etc in south Louisiana. Baton Rouge has never been the murder capital. Lafayette is a very safe city, New Orleans has a crime rate lower than the national average. There are break-ins and murders in every county in America. No, the KKK is not a gang, it's barely even active in Louisiana. They still gather in Sorrento but are not a problem.

Stop being dramatic. I have never been a victim of crime in Louisiana yet I have been a victim 3 times in Houston.
Wow. You are so buried in denial that you can probably smell the pyramids.

Gangs don't have to be national to be gangs. A street gang can be as small as ten people on a few blocks.

I have lived here for seven years. I have been burglarized four times, assaulted twice, and even shot at for being white in Baton Rouge.

Look at ANY credible national listing and you will see that not only does Louisiana harbor the highest murder rate in America (NOT Nevada, not even close), but New Orleans has been above average crime for decades. And yes, Baton Rouge has been murder capital. It currently has a murder rate higher than Chicago.

I also know for a fact the Klan exists here. But I refuse to go into why.

Here's some proof for you-

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There is also a rather telling murder statistic map thread right here on C-D, but sadly I could not find it quickly enough.



That image is a real billboard on I-12 in Baton Rouge. We have driven by it many times. The image is from the local paper, The Advocate.

http://theadvocate.com/news/4415931-...ion-crime-rate

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Old 09-24-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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No. There are no gangs in south Louisiana, maybe a little influence from Texas in Lake Charles. There are no bloods, crips, Latin Kings, MS13, etc in south Louisiana. Baton Rouge has never been the murder capital. Lafayette is a very safe city, New Orleans has a crime rate lower than the national average. There are break-ins and murders in every county in America. No, the KKK is not a gang, it's barely even active in Louisiana. They still gather in Sorrento but are not a problem.

Stop being dramatic. I have never been a victim of crime in Louisiana yet I have been a victim 3 times in Houston.
Ah the age-old..."I don't believe the statistics because of my own anecdotal experience" logic. Never fails.

In reality; this whole map/list is ridiculously subjective for the most part and even the objective ones don't seem to have strong numbers behind them (except for the NC lowest teacher pay one, that's definitely true).

However, the post quoted above contains one of my biggest pet peeves. One person's anecdotal experience is not enough to prove statistical trends false.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:06 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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I like the way you broke each list down to the truth. You should do the rest,as I enjoyed how you explained it.
Here is the list with a few comments in blue.

1. Alabama: highest rate of stroke (3.8%) (tied with Oklahoma)

2. Alaska: highest suicide rate (23.6 suicides per 100,000 people in 2004)

3. Arizona: highest rate of alcoholism (apparently while they send us all their Ice Tea, they are keeping the good stuff for themselves)

4. Arkansas: worst average credit score (636). (don't use credit cards at Walmart)

5. California: most air pollution (15.2 micrograms per cubic meter)

6. Colorado: highest rate of cocaine use per capita (3.9% total population)

7. Connecticut: highest rate of breast cancer.

8. Delaware: highest abortion rate (27 per 1,000 women aged 15 to 44)

9. Florida: highest rate of identity theft (122.3 reports per 100,000 people)

10. Georgia: sickly based on highest rate of influenza (when the Devil went down to Georgia - even he got the Flu)

11. Hawaii –highest cost of living (tied with California). (Does high COL have something to do with big waves and surfing!)

12. Idaho – lowest level of Congressional clout.

13. Illinois: highest rate of robbery (284.7 incidences per 100,000 people)

14. Indiana: rated the most environmentally unfriendly by NMI solutions Source.

15. Iowa: highest percentage of people age 85 and older (1.8 percent) (tied with three other states) Source. (Maybe people live longer in Iowa - is this really a bad thing?)

16. Kansas: poorest health based on highest average number of limited activity days per month (3.5 days).

17. Kentucky: most cancer deaths (227 per 100,000 people) (BONUS fact: Kentucky also has the highest rate of tobacco smokers – 25.6%)

18. Louisiana: highest rate of gonorrhea (264.4 reported cases per 100,000 people).

19. Maine: dumbest state claim based on lowest average SAT score (1389). (If Maine is both dumb and infertile (see Vermont below), perhaps that's a good thing. However all kidding aside, I seriously believe that Maine is by far not the dumbest state)

20. Maryland: highest rate of AIDS diagnosis (27.6 people per 100,000 people). (surprising)

21. Massachusetts: worst drivers claim based on highest rate of auto accidents. (less surprising)

22. Michigan: highest unemployment rate (13.6%) (thank you Fed government and your "Free Trade" )

23. Minnesota: highest number of reported tornadoes (123 in 2010). (is this normal or just for 2010?)

24. Mississippi: highest rate of obesity (35.3% of total population) (The State is not named after the Big River for nothing. )

BONUS facts: Mississippi ranks last in the most number of categories. These include highest rate of child poverty (31.9%), highest rate of infant mortality (10.3%) lowest median household income ($35,078), highest teen birth rate (71.9 per 1,000 women aged 15 to 19) and highest overall rate of STDs.

25. Missouri: highest rate of bankruptcy (700 out of every 100,000 people).

26. Montana: highest rate of drunk driving deaths (1.12 deaths per 100 million miles driven).

27. Nebraska: highest rate of women murdered annually (very surprising and sad)

28. Nevada: highest rate violent crime (702.2 offenses per 100,000 people). BONUS fact: Nevada also has the highest rate of foreclosure (one in 99 houses).

29. New Hampshire: highest rate of corporate taxes.

30. New Jersey: highest rate of citizen taxation (11.8%).

31. New Mexico: antisocial claim based on lowest ranking in social heath policies. (THIS is the dumbest claim on this list)

32. New York: longest average daily commute (30.6 minutes). (Umm Taxes, COL??? LINative can think of worse things then the daily commute !)

33. North Carolina: lowest average teacher salary

34. North Dakota: ranked last in ugliest residents report as chosen by The Daily Beast. ( Another dumb one)

35. Ohio: nerdiest state claim based on highest number of library visits per capita (6.9). ( That would be Vermont. See Vermont below ?)

36. Oklahoma: highest rate of female incarceration (gotta keep them in the kitchen somehow )

37. Oregon: highest rate of long-term homeless people (send them back to California)

38. Pennsylvania: highest rate of arson deaths (55.56 annually). ("Penns Woods" Land of underground mine fires)

39. Rhode Island: highest rate of illicit drug use (12.5% of population). (gotta be big in something - might as well be something you enjoy )

40. South Carolina: highest percentage of mobile homes (18.8%).

41. South Dakota: highest rate of forcible rape 76.5 per 100,000 (what is it with the Plain states?)

42. Tennessee: chosen most corrupt state by The Daily Beast. (surprising)

43. Texas: lowest high school graduation rate (78.3%). (less surprising)

44. Utah: highest rate of of online porn subscriptions. ( )

45. Vermont: infertility claim based on lowest birth rate of any state (10.6 births per 1,000) (tied with Maine).

46. Virginia: highest number of alcohol-related motorcyle deaths. (Is this the most interesting thing they could find? Also spell motorcycle correctly you fools. ? )

47. Washington: most cases of bestiality (4 reported in 2010). (must be all those "Twilight" werewolves )

48. West Virginia: highest rate of heart attack (6.5 percent of population) (surprising)

49. Wisconsin: highest rate of binge drinking (23.2 percent of population) (less surprising)

50. Wyoming: highest rate of deadly car crashes (24.6 deaths per 100,000)

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Old 09-24-2013, 11:30 AM
 
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Here is the list with a few comments in blue.



41. South Dakota: highest rate of forcible rape 76.5 per 100,000 (what is it with the Plain states?)
Crime on the Indian reservations skew the statistics.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Gangs don't have to be national to be gangs. A street gang can be as small as ten people on a few blocks.
That's not a gang. It's just the ghetto.

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I have lived here for seven years. I have been burglarized four times, assaulted twice, and even shot at for being white in Baton Rouge.
You are a rare extreme. I have been in the ghetto far longer than you in Baton Rouge and have never been shot at, robbed, burglarized, etc.

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Look at ANY credible national listing and you will see that not only does Louisiana harbor the highest murder rate in America (NOT Nevada, not even close), but New Orleans has been above average crime for decades. And yes, Baton Rouge has been murder capital. It currently has a murder rate higher than Chicago.
Louisiana does have the highest murder rate, I never disputed that but it is skewed by the murder rate in New Orleans. The murder rate in Baton Rouge is significantly lower than that of New Orleans while still being #8 last time I checked. No, Baton Rouge has never been the murder captial. New Orleans crime is below the national average, for the second time. Here;s some proof for you: NOLa has lower crime rate, higher murder rate than nation*|*New Orleans' Multicultural News Source | The Louisiana Weekly

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I also know for a fact the Klan exists here. But I refuse to go into why.
OK? I told you they exist, they exist in nearly every state.


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That image is a real billboard on I-12 in Baton Rouge. We have driven by it many times. The image is from the local paper, The Advocate.

Firms question crime rate | News | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, LA
Yes, I live in Baton Rouge. I've seen the sign and never said Baton Rouge didn't have a murder problem.

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Ah the age-old..."I don't believe the statistics because of my own anecdotal experience" logic. Never fails.
I never said that. You can be a victim of crime anywhere in the world, but it's not like everyone here has to deal with crime. Baton Rouge is largely a safe city if you stay out of the hood when you shouldn't be there, which is very easy to do.


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However, the post quoted above contains one of my biggest pet peeves. One person's anecdotal experience is not enough to prove statistical trends false.
This goes both ways.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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So basically you are arguing that since New Orleans has less crime outside of murders and you have never been a victim, then Louisiana is a paradise.

You are also arguing that gang mentality does not equal gangs. Gangs absolutely must be famous and huge to be a gang.

You also say Baton Rouge is a very safe city blah blah blah. Sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night, pal.

I'm so very done talking to you. I feel bad for anybody who believes you and ends up getting a rude awakening here.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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MN: Mosquitos.
GA: People that don't now how to drive properly.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Crime on the Indian reservations skew the statistics.
About half of those listed statistics are "skewed" buy some demographic anomaly, or by the boundaries of the definitions that are used. Like, exactly, what is the definition of "binge drinking". Exactly what is the definition of "forcible rape", except in the eye of the prosecutor? And some are based on highly variable events (e.g. tornadoes) selected from one year,
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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About half of those listed statistics are "skewed" buy some demographic anomaly, or by the boundaries of the definitions that are used. Like, exactly, what is the definition of "binge drinking". Exactly what is the definition of "forcible rape", except in the eye of the prosecutor? And some are based on highly variable events (e.g. tornadoes) selected from one year,
That's true, and why the whole list shouldn't be taken too seriously. With South Dakota, though, the situation on the reservations (as well as the total population) does need to be taken into account. Someone just looking at this list might assume the state is dangerous, and that's just not the case. Sure, there is crime in Rapid City but I don't walk down the street in constant fear of being attacked.
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