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Old 09-30-2013, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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It's not on the level on those other cities mentioned. Dallas and Houston generally falls under the same dialect region while cities like "Pittsburgh-Philadelphia" and "New York City-Buffalo" are in different dialect regions within the state. So it's not the same exact thing.
No. They don't. Dallas is more in the region of upland South close to being Midland like Oklahoma and Arkansas. Houston is gulf coast South and much like the rest of the gulf coast outside New Orleans. Completely different type of accents. So yes, it is the same. The two don't sound alike. The similarities are there in tone. That's about it. Both Southern but different.

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Old 09-30-2013, 08:41 PM
 
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There is even a difference between Blacks from Philly and the ones from Pittsburgh and they are in the same state!
It's the same in NY in terms of Upstate and Downstate. They say we are country up here, but some of that could be due to many Black people up here being first generation Northerners within the last 50 years or so.

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Old 09-30-2013, 08:50 PM
 
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I couldn't find a good example of a Boston AA accent. I tried "Roxbury," "Dorchester," "Mattapan," etc. No good videos where you can just focus in on the accent. This was the best I could find.


YouthBuild, Residents Join in Roxbury Cleanup - YouTube

But these kids are fairly mild compared to most residents of, say, Dorchester. You can still hear the Boston accent...it's just milder. But I personally met many people while living there who say "Bawstin, Bay-beee!" It's a very strong accent even in the AA community.
Look up Mike Jarvis, who is a College Basketball at Florida Atlantic. He grew up in Cambridge. Coach Mike Jarvis - YouTube

Mike Jarvis.mov - YouTube
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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It's the same in NY in terms of Upstate and Downstate. They say we are country up here, but some of that could be due to many Black people up here being first generation Northerners within the last 50 years or so.
Here are some examples of Black Upstate NYers and you may hear a range of accents: Under the Lights - Jo-Lonn Dunbar - YouTube

New Orleans Saints Will Smith Hosts Event to Give Back to NOLA - YouTube

NEC-TV Feature - Monmouth University Head Men's Basketball Coach King Rice - YouTube

Chael Sonnen and Jon Jones Square Off Again - YouTube

Alexis Spight Upclose and Personal - YouTube

Taye Diggs on Ellen 10/15/09 - YouTube

Corey Ellis: Speaks about the Landfill in Albany, NY - YouTube

These are people from Syracuse, Utica, Binghamton/Endicott, Buffalo, Rochester and Albany, in that order.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:43 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach
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The California variant of African-American Vernacular English is surprisingly rhotic compared to most AAVE dialects.

And this is how one can primarily distinguish an AA west coast accent from a southern one (well the lowland influenced ones at least) and also how I can usually pinpoint which region someone is from. To the untrained ear, one would mistakenly make the claim of all AA dialects outside of the east coast sounding the same. But that couldnt be further from the truth. just as the poster I quoted alluded to, AA west coast dialects are very rhotic as opposed to some AA southern dialects which are fairly non-rhotic.


Case in point, lets take words as simple as "butter" and "girl". A black native Californian will pronounce them as they sound but would place more stress and emphasis on the letter r. so it would sound something like "butterrrr" or "girrrl". A black southerner (esp. in Georgia, Florida, or Alabama) on the other hand would often mute the r sound or pronounce it very softly. to the point of the where the 2 words will come out sounding like "buttuh" and "guhl"
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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There is a ton of black population outside of St. Louis, Detroit, and Chicago in the midwest. Kansas City, Indiapolis, some other cities in Michigan, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Cincinati, Columbus, OH, etc. All significantly notable black populations in the midwest. I could probably think of some more, but that's off the top of my head. The midwest has a large black population, we're not talking about the West Coast, which essentially has no black people.
Chicago/Detroit/St. Louis = 3,218,475

Cleveland/Columbus/Indianapolis/Milwaukee/Cincinnati/Kansas City/Minneapolis = 1,968,302
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:09 AM
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:41 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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You couldn't be more wrong. West coast and Midwest blacks sound nothing alike. NYC blacks may have the most defined accent but not the only recognizable black accent. I can understand if a white person thinks that all blacks sound the same due to a lack of experience.

Not true as a person from the East Coast they sound very alike. With exceptions to St Louis, and Memphis which are very distinct. Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, and Chicago sound very very similar to West Coast accents and I have family all over the Midwest.

You all may not hear it but many of us do, just like when NY'ers say DC sounds southern, of course we don't hear that ish, but they hear something that they feel is southern. Midwest and WC def have a similar accent.
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Old 10-02-2013, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Not true as a person from the East Coast they sound very alike. With exceptions to St Louis, and Memphis which are very distinct. Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, and Chicago sound very very similar to West Coast accents and I have family all over the Midwest.

You all may not hear it but many of us do, just like when NY'ers say DC sounds southern, of course we don't hear that ish, but they hear something that they feel is southern. Midwest and WC def have a similar accent.
It's the first I'm hearing this honestly. I family all over the Midwest mostly Chicago and family in Oakland myself. I do not find that much similarities myself. But that's me.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:16 PM
 
Location: NorCal by way of L.A. and Atlanta
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I have met plenty of black Chicagoans that sound very southern. Recently I met a woman from Chicago that sounded so southern that if she told me she was from Alabama then I would of believed her. Twista, Lisa Raye, Bernie Mac, R. Kelly, Chief Keef etc all sound very southern. Kanye sounds southern at times. Common, Lupe and Donell Jones are the least southern black sounding black Chicagoans that I can think of. Most black Chicagoans sound very southern and many people would agree with me.
Exactly! I agree wholeheartedly because just about all of my friends that were from Chicago sound just as southern as an Atlantan. When I still lived in Atlanta I was on the MARTA train at the time there was a girl on there who asked me where the closest MetroPCS store was and I told her Five Points/Downtown Atlanta. After listening to her accent I just happened to ask her where she was from and she said Chicago, and if she hadn't have told me that I would have thought she was very well from Atlanta, Alabama, or perhaps Mississippi. However I have ran into few Chicagoans that sound more East Coast than southern such as Common, Lupe, & Donell Jones like you stated.
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