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Old 09-26-2013, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Long Island is about 19-20% Irish. 25.5% Italian.
I'm sure the numbers are lower for the MSA as a whole (probably a good bit lower for Italians), but it doesn't really matter since NYC has such an overwhelming numerical advantage over every other metro in the country.
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:03 PM
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^^ the odd thing to me is that Philly and Boston are pretty similar Irish and Italian yet Philly is generally more associated with Italians and Boston with Irish
The difference is larger once you look at the suburbs. Much of the Irish-American population has left the city limits. Some suburban counties:

Norfolk: 32% (Italian 16%)
Plymouth: 34% (Italian 16%)
Middlesex: 24% (Italian 16%)

Odd how identical the Italian numbers are. Milton, MA a rich suburb on the city border is 41% Irish, 10% Italian.
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:08 PM
 
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The difference is larger once you look at the suburbs. Much of the Irish-American population has left the city limits. Some suburban counties:

Norfolk: 32% (Italian 16%)
Plymouth: 34% (Italian 16%)
Middlesex: 24% (Italian 16%)

Odd how identical the Italian numbers are
Not sure where you get the stats but would be interesting to see Delaware, Montgomery, and Bucks counties in PA
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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The difference is larger once you look at the suburbs. Much of the Irish-American population has left the city limits. Some suburban counties:

Norfolk: 32% (Italian 16%)
Plymouth: 34% (Italian 16%)
Middlesex: 24% (Italian 16%)

Odd how identical the Italian numbers are
Yup. See the link below.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/.../03/irish2.jpg

Most of Suffolk County isn't even shaded. But there's no question that the Irish are still a force in City Hall (and on Beacon Hill).
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:13 PM
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Also considering Boston is only half white non-hispanic, 18% Irish is equivalent to 36% of the white non-hispanic population. Of course, since Philly is even less white, it could be even more Irish from that perspective.
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:18 PM
 
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Not sure where you get the stats but would be interesting to see Delaware, Montgomery, and Bucks counties in PA
Delaware County - 25.77% (18.08% Italian)
Montgomery County - 22.12% (15.54% Italian)
Bucks County - 27.19% (15.46% Italian)
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:19 PM
 
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Also considering Boston is only half white non-hispanic, 18% Irish is equivalent to 36% of the white non-hispanic population. Of course, since Philly is even less white, it could be even more Irish from that perspective.

Makes sense some counties around Philly

Delaware 25% Irish, 18% Italian
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:32 PM
 
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Makes sense some counties around Philly

Delaware 25% Irish, 18% Italian
Here's the thing though: in 1980, the Italian population in Philadelphia was larger than the Irish population. So what happened? Do the Irish not like Florida?
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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Here's the thing though: in 1980, the Italian population in Philadelphia was larger than the Irish population. So what happened? Do the Irish not like Florida?
South Jersey, like the new South Philly

Places like Marlton, Deptford, Swedesboro etc.
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:37 PM
 
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South Jersey, like the new South Philly

Places like Marlton, Deptford, Swedesboro etc.
True, but I'm sure some Irish had to have left the city too. From the stats, it's obvious that Italians have left at a higher rate, but why?
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