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Old 03-28-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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If people think NYC wouldn't be larger with socal climate, they're kidding themselves.

But if LA/California wasn't as isolated it would also be far larger.
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Old 03-28-2016, 11:49 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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If people think NYC wouldn't be larger with socal climate, they're kidding themselves.

But if LA/California wasn't as isolated it would also be far larger.
Yeah, the U.S. would be different if things were different.

"If, if is good" or something like that. :-)
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Old 03-28-2016, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Also Madrid is larger than Berlin and St Petersburg.
I have to admit the Wiki list I was looking at was a list of European cities ranked by population within city limits, not metro areas. Still, London and Paris have larger populations across their whole metro than Madrid, despite being significantly cooler climate.

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If people think NYC wouldn't be larger with socal climate, they're kidding themselves.
People move where there are jobs. North Dakota has had a population boom over the last 10 years, despite the crappy climate, due to the energy industry.

Last I checked California had significantly negative domestic migration, with population growth only kept ahead by natural population growth and international immigration. So it's not as if the "perfect climate" alone is causing Americans to flock there.
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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If you go by median home prices coastal California is the most desirable real estate in America, outside of Manhattan.
And the Hamptons, and Greenwich, and Palm Beach, and other places.
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:55 PM
 
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The eastern U.S. will always have way more population than the western U.S. due to the limits of geography, climate and settlement patterns in the west. Southern California weather is an anomaly in the west and even in California itself.

So, the whole discussion about population comparison is kind of useless to begin with.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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And the Hamptons, and Greenwich, and Palm Beach, and other places.
Proposition 13 has really distorted California property prices over the years, it must be noted. Since your property taxes barely go up unless you sell and buy a new place there's a strong incentive for homeowners to not make in-state moves. At the same time, corporations can ensure they do not pay higher property taxes by incorporating holding companies, selling those holding companies rather than the properties directly. As a result, California has an artificially restricted supply of housing on the market at any one time, which means demand is artificially high, as are prices.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:50 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The eastern U.S. will always have way more population than the western U.S. due to the limits of geography, climate and settlement patterns in the west. Southern California weather is an anomaly in the west and even in California itself.

So, the whole discussion about population comparison is kind of useless to begin with.
Not really, Northern and Central Ca have similar weather to SoCal too.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:09 PM
 
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And the Hamptons, and Greenwich, and Palm Beach, and other places.

LOL what other places?
And palm Beach isn't more expensive than those California beach towns ..
The median sales price for a home is $572,000 there.

That's nothing like the beach towns in cali.

That other Miami former tried to compare the two and got slaughtered.

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Old 03-31-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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No. It gets hot in the North and cold in the South, so there's no medium. Most places vary at least 30 degrees throughout the year, and the places with that little variation out less get quite hot in the summer.
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Lakeland, Florida
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