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As an Okie, and having lived in Tejas for over ten years, I know for a fact that North Texans would be shocked to know that there culture is Midwestern. I know us Oklahomans do not consider ourselves Midwestern either, just FYI for some of the earlier posters.
Also, North/West Texas are most similar to Oklahoma; and culturally, it's not Midwestern. A mixture of the South/West?....Sure. Midwest?....Hell No.
As per the OP's inquiry, I would say that California probably fits the bill. When I lived on the West Coast I met a lot of folks from Northern California. They considered themselves quite different from Southern Californians.
Okay. Carry on.
I wouldn't be quick to say hell no to the Midwest unless they specify which Midwest you're talking about. If anyone says the have Midwestern characteristics like Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, then I would agree. But if anyone says Kansas, Nebraska, the Dakotas, I would say yeah. That's not to say North Texas and Oklahoma are Midwestern either. But the cultures are getting closer today as the way of life shifts that way. Dallas seems to try to connect more with Kansas City nowadays than Little Rock or Memphis. From what I heard from GraniteStater on here, he says the same is true vice versa regarding Kansas City.
NY State. Western NY should be its own state. Eastern NY its own. Northern NY State should just be sold to Canada. Downstate + NYC + Long Island should be one.
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NY State. Western NY should be its own state. Eastern NY its own. Northern NY State should just be sold to Canada. Downstate + NYC + Long Island should be one.
Why would NY want to sell the best part of their state to another country?
You have "Missour-uh" in the southern part of the state. Then you have the rolling, forested hills combined with some farmland in the middle of the state, and then farmland as far as the eye can see in the northern third of the state. As far as urban areas, St Louis and Kansas City couldn't be any more different.
I guess another question would be what states don't really have much regional variation or cultural or geographic distinctions? Almost every sizable state that has a large urban area and rural areas in most of the rest of the state has a division to some degree.
Like Vermont, seems pretty solidly united in terms of landscape and culture, but I don't know, maybe people in the south feel they're different about Burlington... Delaware or Rhode Island seem to small to really have much division(since they're about the size of a large CMSA). Maybe southern Delaware resents northern Delaware in the Philly metro though...
Likewise, Wyoming seems to have a common vibe throughout, that's only really different in between the say somewhere like touristy and rich Jackson Hole and the rest of the state--or maybe between the Rockies in the west and the Great Plains in the east.
^ I don't know about resentment, but there is a bit of a difference culturally in Delaware, from New Castle County down to Lower Slower Delaware.
Perhaps resent was the wrong word. But, I think most if not every state have rural areas that feel a divide with the big urban area(s) in a state. Or there's some other divide. Like in Alaska, people say the real Alaska starts when you leave Anchorage.
Illinois: Chicagoland is one state, the rest of Illinois is another. They're way different.
New York: NYC, LI, and the suburbs just north of the city are one state, the rest is another.
Maryland: Same idea. Baltimore, Baltimore county is one state. Then there's the rest of Maryland California: Probably at least three states. Southern Cali (LA and San Diego), Northen Cali (San Jose, San Francisco, Scaramneto), and the Inland Empire
Florida: The panhandle is not like the rest of Florida really. Two different Floridas right there.
Virginia: NOVA is not like the rest of Virginia. It is a northeastern state plunked down in the Old Confederacy.
The Inland Empire is definitely not its own state. It would be part of SoCal. It's just LA's tail. I think you mean Northern California, Southern California, and the Central Valley (Fresno, Bakersfield, Visalia). And you still have the Central Coast left over.
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I know us Oklahomans do not consider ourselves Midwestern either, just FYI for some of the earlier posters.
