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Old 10-19-2013, 08:40 AM
 
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Research carefully. I totally understand the desire to move to a more forward-thinking area that has higher salaries and have myself a few times, but realistically you will be trading the South's provincialism for crowded, unfriendly and very fast paced lifestyle. The NE has lots of great areas, but it still has its own set of undesirables in most popular areas. While not the South, NE has the potential to get to be just as problematic, none-the-less. I lived in a lot of places in the NE, but I couldn't again, with quality-of-life being the most motivating factor of a move, personally. I would not rule out extending your search to places like Louisville or the University of Ohio, Columbus area and others like that that sort of fly under the radar.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:46 AM
 
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Research carefully. I totally understand the desire to move to a more forward-thinking area that has higher salaries and have myself a few times, but realistically you will be trading the South's provincialism for crowded, unfriendly and very fast paced lifestyle. The NE has lots of great areas, but it still has its own set of undesirables in most popular areas. While not the South, NE has the potential to get to be just as problematic, none-the-less. I lived in a lot of places in the NE, but I couldn't again, with quality-of-life being the most motivating factor of a move, personally. I would not rule out extending your search to places like Louisville or the University of Ohio, Columbus area and others like that that sort of fly under the radar.
There are areas of the Northeast that can offer a balance of a slower pace, short commute, average COL, etc; while being bigger than Knoxville. Pittsburgh, Rochester and even Buffalo come to mind. I believe that all of those areas have a higher average annual income than Knoxville, with an overall COL not much higher than Knoxville.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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St Louis is not the south but its hardly a liberal place or in a liberal state.You go not far out of St.Louis you will encounter very similar attitudes that they say wish to escape.That said one would definitely say Atlanta is a far better choice over St.Louis.

However if out of the South is what they want,then I would say D.C.Its Northeast and Southern.Many transplants from particularly both regions are living in that area.Its not a huge culture shock.
Missouri is definitely not a liberal place but, St. Louis is. It is true that the liberals disappear once you get out of the metro area. If you want a blue state and are considering St. Louis than I would recommend looking in the Metro East which will put you living in Illinois.

Think hard before you consider moving to a blue state, there is a reason so many people from those states are moving South. They just built new apartments where I'm from in Maryland and they start at $1600 for a one bedroom. Housing isn't the only thing that is more expensive, EVERYTHING IS! That includes taxes which will make your taxes in Tn look like your not even paying any.

Illinois isn't a bad option as housing is fairly cheap and you can live either right on top of St. Louis or within a reasonable distance from Chicago without getting too pricey. Just don't forget to consider taxes. that goes for Illinois as well.

Oh and I hope you like washing your car in the winter because if you don't you better make good friends with rust.
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Old 10-19-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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Think hard before you consider moving to a blue state, there is a reason so many people from those states are moving South.
Yes, and that reason would be mainly an aversion to taxes and entitlements for the poor. I live in a Sunbelt state where many are "fleeing to" and when one runs the cost of living versus income differences, in the end the difference is fairly small. By and large the type of people who live by the motto "it's all about me" are those that find moving here most appealing and surprisingly enough a good number of us don't like living around individuals like that.
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Old 10-19-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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That's debatable, it's cheaper for a reason. One has to adapt to a gritty, very urban city which isn't for everyone. Cities like Boston or DC provide a city feel without the grit/grime that many (including myself) don't find appealing.
That's true, and I would recommond Boston or DC or Manhattan. But cost of living is obviously a big issue for the OP. And when that's the case you naturally have to make some compromises in terms of the kind of city you live in.

Philadelphia may just be the sweet spot the OP is looking for given that it is a vibrant city with a nice downtown area, as well as being close to beaches, mountains and other cities. I think it's a great deal for an east coast city.
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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That's true, and I would recommond Boston or DC or Manhattan. But cost of living is obviously a big issue for the OP. And when that's the case you naturally have to make some compromises in terms of the kind of city you live in.

Philadelphia may just be the sweet spot the OP is looking for given that it is a vibrant city with a nice downtown area, as well as being close to beaches, mountains and other cities. I think it's a great deal for an east coast city.
There are other cities with less of grimy, urban (not in a good way) feel that have nicer attributes. Chicago comes to mind as one example.
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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I KNOW NC is in the south, but how about Asheville? It seems to have a more cosmopolitan flavor than the typical southern cities.
OP has said she can't afford the sticker shock of New England, so I doubt she could afford Philly, Baltimore or other cities near DC or NYC either.
I don't know how frigid you are willing to go, but I hear that Minneapolis is a really nice popular, youthful and active city.
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Old 10-19-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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I KNOW NC is in the south, but how about Asheville? It seems to have a more cosmopolitan flavor than the typical southern cities.
OP has said she can't afford the sticker shock of New England, so I doubt she could afford Philly, Baltimore or other cities near DC or NYC either.
I don't know how frigid you are willing to go, but I hear that Minneapolis is a really nice popular, youthful and active city.
This may surprise people, but bigger Interior Northeastern areas are actually more affordable overall than Asheville. Even Ithaca, which is very similar and smaller, has a lower overall COL. So, the low cost of living aspect can actually be even when comparing some Northeastern areas to some Southern areas.

To the OP, here is a Buffalo neighborhood that may fit what you are looking for, while fitting much of the criteria mentioned: Elmwood Village - Buffalo New York - YouTube

The Elmwood Village Association

Here's an up and coming Rochester neighborhood that may also fit: South Wedge - Rochester Wiki
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Old 10-19-2013, 02:26 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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These are all basically pretty good suggestions. Do you have friends or family you can go visit there and take a look around? Also, maybe it might make sense to sort of scout around for jobs after getting a good list of places you're interested in and basically heading for the best combination of job and job location you find.
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:19 PM
 
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Asheville is a boutique city and pricey. I imagine the OPs have visited several times, if not they should while they are in the area. Louisville is a bit bigger and has a great neighborhood commercial area (bardstown road), but I don't see it being a big enough change from Knoxville if they are going to the trouble to move.

Columbus seems like a good suggestion.
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