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Old 11-09-2013, 09:34 AM
 
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California Governor Jerry Brown is from Oakland
Good Observations about the current politicians in California.

But, I wouldn't say Jerry's "from" Oakland. He was born in SF, went to school in SF, Sacramento, Santa Clara, and Berkeley.

Lived in Sacramento as a kid, as Secretary of State, and as Governor (4 terms, 20years). Currently, He has a very large loft in Sacramento as well as the home in the Oakland Hills.
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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Charleston has been the third largest MSA in SC for the longest time now. Before the revisions earlier this year, Columbia was the largest but Greenville's jumped ahead after absorbing an adjacent MSA (but has had the largest CSA for a good while now).

In terms of national reputation, Charleston is clearly #1. I consider Columbia and Greenville pretty much neck and neck.

I think Arkansas might be a good candidate here. Seems like NW Arkansas has been getting all the shine lately over Little Rock.

In NC, Charlotte was the first to get all the praise then Raleigh-Durham joined the party. In some ways, the latter outshines the former with its universities and tech economy, but the city of Charlotte gets more exposure overall so for the most part I'd say they are tied in this regard.
I would agree with a tie for Charlotte and Raleigh-Durham. The NC pro sports teams are in Charlotte while Raleigh-Durham is a college sports hotbed (esp. basketball).
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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this is arguable. I'm a big fan of the Bay Area but I think there's a significant chunk of the populace that holds higher regard for LA.
No, with all the problems down there and the better Bay Area economy I would disagree. Weather-wise, it depends on your preference and I find it nice assuming one is near the Bay or coast to still have summer days in the 70's as I do not like extreme heat. Both regions have further inland cities that get the heat, though.

I would consider colleges/universities approx. even in both areas. For pro football fans the Bay Area has two teams and LA...zero!
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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I think Austin seems t ohave a bigger national buzz, or always had. It's viewed as "cooler with a great vibe" whether true or not. Houston or Dallas are just big sprawls to me.
Dallas' most popular non-sports attraction is based on a tragedy (JFK assassination). At least Houston can point to the Johnson Space Center which put a man on the moon in 1969. Beware though, that Austin may enter that "sprawl" category a decade from now if the current growth pattern continues. Isn't its metro pop. almost the same as San Antonio now? You are right that its buzz is pretty good when you consider it is only the fourth most populous in Texas.

I am sure those cities must have other amenities that only those who live there are familiar with as well.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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The only one I could agree with you on here is Florida. Officially Jacksonville is the largest (particularly in land area) due to consolidation, but Miami (and let's be honest, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm, Orlando and Tampa) outshines it.

No idea how you could even fathom Boulder outshining the powerhouse of Colorado, Denver.

Birmingham also outshines Huntsville by a good bit. It should. It's the largest city in the state.

North Carolina could be a toss up depending on how you look at it. Both Charlotte and Raleigh are doing well economically. Raleigh is the faster grower, but Charlotte has the larger population with the major sports teams.
The only things I could think of for the Boulder over Denver people is that it has the most prestigious university in the state with the highest enrollment (Univ. of CO). You still have good restaurants, mostly left of center views (that may not be a plus to all people) and it is closer to Rocky Mountain National Park. It also is not surrounded by sprawling suburbs. The western portion of the city is actually in the foothills of the Rockies (correct me if I am wrong there).

I still think Denver offers more overall and certainly has the better business and cultural options, but I am not surprised why some people might choose Boulder.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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How the hell does Austin outshine Houston or Dallas?

KC is the most populated metro in Missouri but it plays second fiddle to St. Louis. As a matter of fact many people think St. Louis is much bigger. It does have a bigger urban core, but KC metro is bigger overall.
False. St. Louis is the largest metro in the state of Missouri with 2.8 million compared with Kansas City at 2.3. This goes deeper still.

Kansas City Missouri is larger in city population than St. Louis, by a smidgen. Kansas City is at 319,000 and St. Louis is at 318.000.

St. Louis is 62 square miles at a density of 5,140
Kansas City is 319 square miles at a density of 1,472.

I think we know who the real winner is here.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Not that either cities are very well known, but Biloxi/Gulfport in Mississippi are known as the Playground of the South. 12 casinos between the two cities and a lot of beaches. These cities definitely outshine the state capital of Jackson which is a snore.
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Franklin, TN
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False. St. Louis is the largest metro in the state of Missouri with 2.8 million compared with Kansas City at 2.3. This goes deeper still.

Kansas City Missouri is larger in city population than St. Louis, by a smidgen. Kansas City is at 319,000 and St. Louis is at 318.000.

St. Louis is 62 square miles at a density of 5,140
Kansas City is 319 square miles at a density of 1,472.

I think we know who the real winner is here.
If Kansas City had 319,000 people in 319 square miles, then why would the population density be 1,472?
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Old 11-13-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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If Kansas City had 319,000 people in 319 square miles, then why would the population density be 1,472?
Kansas City, Missouri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Might have something to do with some of the city lands being water. I don't know, I didn't do the calculations. Make an entry on Wikipedia to correct it.
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Here's several I could think of:

Colorado - Technically Boulder is a separate metro from Denver and I would say it "outshines" Denver.
Florida - If you want to talk city proper, then Jacksonville is the largest city and I don't think any would say it "outshines" the other cities in Florida
Alabama - Birmingham is the largest metro, but Huntsville definitely "outshines" it
North Carolina - Charlotte is the largest metro and I would say Raleigh "outshines" it
Not by any means.
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