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I would really not like to live anywhere north of Baltimore. Pittsburgh will be an EXTREME stretch for a northern city.
But my absolute worst nightmare for a city climate wise would be Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Milwaukee, Chicago, or Cleveland. In fact I don't know how anyone can enjoy living in Buffalo or Syracuse. Aside from family connections there cannot possibly be anything in those cities that are not found in warmer places too. I honestly would rather live in Puerto Rico than in upstate New York if I absolutely was left with no other choice. I don't know of anyone from upstate New York who lived in a warmer climate for a while EVER want to go back there. Syracuse is the snowiest city in the United States and the average lows in January is 15 degrees. I don't know how a snowbound city like Minneapolis ranks as very "livable". North Dakota also is a very desolate, frigid place. I can handle heat, I don't mind Las Vegas, Phoenix, Miami or Orlando or New Orleans in the summer, but I cannot do cold and snow. Simply cannot.
Just want to point out that Minneapolis is hardly snowbound. They do get very very cold in the winter, but they don't get that much precipitation. Plus the winter's there are probably the best season, because it's sunny, and it gets cold enough that everything freezes, so you can do outdoor winter sports like skating, skiing, ice fishing, snow shoeing. When I lived there, I loathed Minnesota for just about everything but the winters. It's such an invigorating feeling to breath in that clean, -20 degrees air, and feel the snot in your nostrils freeze.
Just want to point out that Minneapolis is hardly snowbound. They do get very very cold in the winter, but they don't get that much precipitation. Plus the winter's there are probably the best season, because it's sunny, and it gets cold enough that everything freezes, so you can do outdoor winter sports like skating, skiing, ice fishing, snow shoeing. When I lived there, I loathed Minnesota for just about everything but the winters. It's such an invigorating feeling to breath in that clean, -20 degrees air, and feel the snot in your nostrils freeze.
LOL. Interesting way to put it.
The Twin Cities are great in the other seasons too. Fall colors are gorgeous! Bike paths abound for summer activities as well. Many, many, MANY lakes. The water does eventually warm up to swim in (especially those more shallow lakes..Lake Superior further north by Duluth.. eh, not so much)
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Just want to point out that Minneapolis is hardly snowbound. They do get very very cold in the winter, but they don't get that much precipitation. Plus the winter's there are probably the best season, because it's sunny, and it gets cold enough that everything freezes, so you can do outdoor winter sports like skating, skiing, ice fishing, snow shoeing. When I lived there, I loathed Minnesota for just about everything but the winters. It's such an invigorating feeling to breath in that clean, -20 degrees air, and feel the snot in your nostrils freeze.
I really don't understand people that seriously HATE cold weather. I understand if it's not your favourite but honestly, y'all can't find nothing to do? Nothing enjoyable? Is a white landscape decorated with beautiful snow and ice that HORRIBLE? No ice skating? Skiing? Snowboarding? Making snowmen? Winter photography? Winter walks? Y'all can't do none of that?
I'm moving from Florida to Minnesota. I don't hate the heat, I hate it when it overstays it's WELCOME! What I want is seasonal variation. And to be able to ice skate in a park
Any town that gets a lot of snow. Snow and I don't have a very good relationship, so... But a little bit of snow is fine by my means.
Outside of those places, um, I would say Honolulu (too expensive and too many tourists for me), SLC (just not interested), Las Vegas, and Phoenix (my goal is to say never again, eh?).
I like snow but I don't like the mixture of snow and high population density. Been there, done that and it is miserable. Any snowy places with density levels like Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine are okay. Any snowy places with population density like eastern Massachusetts are a no-go. I would have no major issues with a Massachusetts-like level of density if it was in non-snowy climate.
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I like snow but I don't like the mixture of snow and high population density. Been there, done that and it is miserable. Any snowy places with density levels like Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine are okay. Any snowy places with population density like eastern Massachusetts are a no-go. I would have no major issues with a Massachusetts-like level of density if it was in non-snowy climate.
I really don't understand people that seriously HATE cold weather. I understand if it's not your favourite but honestly, y'all can't find nothing to do? Nothing enjoyable? Is a white landscape decorated with beautiful snow and ice that HORRIBLE? No ice skating? Skiing? Snowboarding? Making snowmen? Winter photography? Winter walks? Y'all can't do none of that?
To me, experiencing snow and all the things related to it is almost a staple of what it means to be American. Who doesn't dream of a white Christmas? You would rather have a warm and sunny Christmas? Yuck.
If someone hates snow, then they'd be better off living in an actual tropical country.
Greenville and Jackson Mississippi
Montgomery, Alabama
Billings Montana and the rest of the state
Boston Massachusetts
Anywhere in the midwest that is not Chicago
Boise Iadaho
Salt Lake City Utah
I like snow but I don't like the mixture of snow and high population density. Been there, done that and it is miserable. Any snowy places with density levels like Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine are okay. Any snowy places with population density like eastern Massachusetts are a no-go. I would have no major issues with a Massachusetts-like level of density if it was in a non-snowy climate.
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Why does the combination matter?
Because in high density areas, residential development is designed for maximum occupancy based on summer weather especially when developers are trying to maximize profit and municipal governments are trying to maximize the quantity of taxable property. All the places I have lived in Massachusetts lacked sufficient space to accommodate snow accumulation. I don't want to live in an area where I am going to hate and dread every winter due to those conditions that I cannot change.
In some spots we had neighbors fighting over where to put plowed and shoveled snow. There were plenty of times where I had to confront neighbors moving snow from in front of their properties to the front of my place. Where I am in New Hampshire now that is a non-issue thankfully. I clear my driveway after each storm and that is it.
To me, experiencing snow and all the things related to it is almost a staple of what it means to be American. Who doesn't dream of a white Christmas? You would rather have a warm and sunny Christmas? Yuck.
When I lived in Massachusetts I complained every day from November to February about the snow forecasts. Snow made living in the more compact Massachusetts cities like Lowell and Quincy a nightmare. In contrast last winter in southern New Hampshire was a joy. One day I was out doing some minor cleanup around the driveway with a shovel and I stopped to look at the neighbor's kids riding their snowmobiles around their backyard. I started to daydream about buying one myself and going up into the north country to use it.
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