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Old 11-08-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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Wait, what?

Detroit has some of the richest suburbs in the U.S. Ever been to Bloomfield Hills? Detroit is the poorest major city in the U.S. Oakland County (the biggest suburban county of Metro Detroit) was the wealthiest major suburban county in the country until relatively recently.

And I think Cleveland is #2 in poverty rate., and has many rich suburbs on the East Side of town.
I think he was being ironic and humorous
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Old 11-08-2013, 04:20 PM
 
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Seattle / King County

Bachelor's degree or higher: 55.8% / 45.7%
Per capita income: $41,695 / $38,313

Snohomish and Pierce counties (also in the metro), respectively have 28.4% and 23.6% with college degrees and have per capita incomes of $31,276 and $28,179.

Seattle (city) QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
What about Seattle city? Then, what about King County suburbs? Seattle and King County aren't synonymous. Seattle's median household income is lower than King County's household median income.
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Old 11-08-2013, 04:30 PM
 
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Yes the DC area is very wealthy but most of the wealth is in the suburbs. Half of the District itself is ghetto.
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Old 11-08-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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What about Seattle city? Then, what about King County suburbs? Seattle and King County aren't synonymous. Seattle's median household income is lower than King County's household median income.
I thought it was clear that Seattle city was being compare against King County as a whole, meaning that the King County suburbs would have to be lower than Seattle city on these indicators. There are a lot more 1-person households in city cores than in the suburbs. Per capita incomes are more closely related to the proportion with college degrees and professional occupations etc.

The Geography of Class in Greater Seattle | Newgeography.com

This article shows that while the "east side" suburbs of Seattle are the most affluent. However my question was about the city compared to the metro as a whole, not the city compared to its richest suburbs.

Also Staten Island has a higher median HH income than Manhattan but it would be absurd to argue that Manhattan is more working class than Staten Island IMO.
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Old 11-08-2013, 05:33 PM
 
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You probably aren't going to find this, but it's because of the nature of cities and suburbs.

Cities are mostly multifamily, have subsidized housing, dormitories, projects, group homes, etc. Even a very rich place like Manhattan or San Francisco will have relatively high poverty.

Suburbs are mostly single family homes and mostly homeownership, with few singles, and almost no subsidized housing.

This means a kind of low class suburb can have a higher median income than a wealthy city center. It sounds counter-intuitive but makes sense when you think about it. A bunch of bungalows filled with moderate wage workers will have a higher median than a city center with millionaires and the poor.
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Old 11-08-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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Yes the DC area is very wealthy but most of the wealth is in the suburbs. Half of the District itself is ghetto.
PG County is only 29.7% college educated and has a per capita income of $32,117 compared to 50.5% and $43,993 in the District.* But that's really the exception for the area as most of the suburbs surrounding DC (Montgomery, Fairfax, Arlington) are quite affluent with over 50% having college degrees.

* Granted the poverty rate is higher in DC than PG but the proportion who are in working class, non-professional/managerial occupations is higher in PG.
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Old 11-08-2013, 06:46 PM
 
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I thought it was clear that Seattle city was being compare against King County as a whole, meaning that the King County suburbs would have to be lower than Seattle city on these indicators. There are a lot more 1-person households in city cores than in the suburbs. Per capita incomes are more closely related to the proportion with college degrees and professional occupations etc.

The Geography of Class in Greater Seattle | Newgeography.com

This article shows that while the "east side" suburbs of Seattle are the most affluent. However my question was about the city compared to the metro as a whole, not the city compared to its richest suburbs.

Also Staten Island has a higher median HH income than Manhattan but it would be absurd to argue that Manhattan is more working class than Staten Island IMO.
My point is that you aren't going to find a city that is more affluent as a whole in comparison to all of the suburbs as a whole. With the Seattle area, you could also say that the military presence in Pierce County may skew figures too. What makes this more complicated is that Tacoma is in Pierce County and is a center city in its own right.
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Old 11-08-2013, 06:53 PM
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Boston's least working class neighborhoods are located in the center city (Beacon Hill, Back Bay).

There is also some wealthier outer suburbs (Weston, Lincoln-Sudbury, Dover-Sherborn), but most(/many) of the inner suburbs are more working class (Chelsea, Dorchester, Medford, Roxbury).
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Old 11-08-2013, 07:00 PM
 
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My point is that you aren't going to find a city that is more affluent as a whole in comparison to all of the suburbs as a whole. With the Seattle area, you could also say that the military presence in Pierce County may skew figures too. What makes this more complicated is that Tacoma is in Pierce County and is a center city in its own right.
56% of Seattle residents have college degrees and per capita income is higher than King County as a whole. Professionals are overrepresented in Seattle and I'm sure the proportion of blue collar, clerical and service workers is lower than the King County average.

Would you argue that Manhattan is more working class than Staten Island?
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Old 11-08-2013, 07:37 PM
 
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56% of Seattle residents have college degrees and per capita income is higher than King County as a whole. Professionals are overrepresented in Seattle and I'm sure the proportion of blue collar, clerical and service workers is lower than the King County average.

Would you argue that Manhattan is more working class than Staten Island?
Manhattan and Staten Island are a part of the same municipality, while Seattle and King County aren't necessarily one and the same. That is why suburbs in King County have to be separated from Seattle when comparing it to its suburbs. Keep in mind that Seattle has a higher poverty rate than King County too.
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