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Old 03-31-2016, 10:15 PM
 
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I would say Baltimore is more similar to Philadelphia than any major southern city.
Is this, too, from a historical standpoint? I might agree, though their histories aren't similar enough where I'd group them in the same region. In addition, many major southern cities are in distant inland portions of the South like Atlanta, Charlotte etc. comparing them is like comparing New Haven and Milwaukee.
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Old 04-01-2016, 04:58 AM
 
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Is this, too, from a historical standpoint? I might agree, though their histories aren't similar enough where I'd group them in the same region. In addition, many major southern cities are in distant inland portions of the South like Atlanta, Charlotte etc. comparing them is like comparing New Haven and Milwaukee.
Other than row houses and having a Southernized version of the Philly accent, what else makes them so similar? Certainly not ethnic groups. Unless we count large Black populations, which would actually make Philly more like a Southern city than the other way around, were it not for the large Italian and other White ethnic groups that Philly has and Baltimore does not (not in large amounts at least).
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Old 04-01-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Other than row houses and having a Southernized version of the Philly accent, what else makes them so similar? Certainly not ethnic groups. Unless we count large Black populations, which would actually make Philly more like a Southern city than the other way around, were it not for the large Italian and other White ethnic groups that Philly has and Baltimore does not (not in large amounts at least).
They aren't that similar.
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Old 04-01-2016, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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Other than row houses and having a Southernized version of the Philly accent, what else makes them so similar? Certainly not ethnic groups. Unless we count large Black populations, which would actually make Philly more like a Southern city than the other way around, were it not for the large Italian and other White ethnic groups that Philly has and Baltimore does not (not in large amounts at least).
Baltimoreans don't speak with a Southern accent. Southernized is the wrong word for it. Baltimore and Philly are in the same family of accents and share the same culture.
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Old 04-01-2016, 05:48 PM
 
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Baltimoreans don't speak with a Southern accent. Southernized is the wrong word for it. Baltimore and Philly are in the same family of accents and share the same culture.
Culture? Prove it, son!
Listen to both accents. Baltimore's white accent is borderline. Nobody knows what to do with the black accent. It's not northern, but is it southern?

U146, since you are from Missouri, can you tell us if it is *more southern* than Maryland?
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Old 04-01-2016, 05:51 PM
 
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Culture? Prove it, son!
Listen to both accents. Baltimore's white accent is borderline. Nobody knows what to do with the black accent. It's not northern, but is it southern?

U146, since you are from Missouri, can you tell us if it is *more southern* than Maryland?
I don't have to prove it. It's self-evident. Is what more southern than Maryland? You're not even making sense now. I know you don't agree with my viewpoints, so how about you just put me on ignore.
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Old 04-01-2016, 05:52 PM
 
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Culture? Prove it, son!
Listen to both accents. Baltimore's white accent is borderline. Nobody knows what to do with the black accent. It's not northern, but is it southern?

U146, since you are from Missouri, can you tell us if it is *more southern* than Maryland?
Linguistics maps group Baltimore and Philadelphia together in the same region and outside of the Southern dialect region. And culturally it's a fact the two cities are similar to each other.
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Old 04-01-2016, 05:53 PM
 
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Baltimoreans don't speak with a Southern accent. Southernized is the wrong word for it. Baltimore and Philly are in the same family of accents and share the same culture.
Having a more Southern character doesn't make the accent Southern, as it lacks the Southern drawl that characterizes true Southern accents.

BUT, it has more Southern pronunciations on many levels. Like the way they say the letter I as "ah", and the way they elongate the U. I know it still is a Midland accent but you can't deny the Tidewater influences. I mean, it IS on the Chesapeake Bay.

The Baltimore Blaccents might as well be one word away from Southern. They pretty much have Southern drawl except in one class of words.
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Old 04-01-2016, 05:55 PM
 
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Linguistics maps group Baltimore and Philadelphia together in the same region and outside of the Southern dialect region. And culturally it's a fact the two cities are similar to each other.
Well, how are they similar culturally? Their history is very different. Baltimore was not a Quaker city. Baltimore doesn't have a large amount of Italians or Jews. Baltimore has way more Black people percentage wise. Baltimore is slow paced, Philly is not. I'm...not seeing many similarities.

Are dirt bikes popular in Philly, I guess?
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Old 04-01-2016, 05:58 PM
 
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Culture? Prove it, son!
Listen to both accents. Baltimore's white accent is borderline. Nobody knows what to do with the black accent. It's not northern, but is it southern?

U146, since you are from Missouri, can you tell us if it is *more southern* than Maryland?
If the White accent is borderline, what does that make the Blaccent? Some of them sound like they're from Kentucky, others from the general Midwest, and many sound like they're from South Carolina.

Charlemagne tha God could sound like an average Black Baltimorean, actually.
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