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Katiana, please don't tell me you're comparing Colorado's history with places in the Northeastern U.S.
That's like comparing the Northeastern U.S. to Europe or something. It's a silly comparison.
Why? Do you believe in some strange form of evolution where the west wasn't around at the same time as the northeast? And I have shown that CO and S. Carolina were settled at approximately THE SAME TIME!
As for all this nonsense about "history," it's just that. Nonsense. Everywhere has history.
Yes, of course, everywhere has history, but . . .
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Originally Posted by Katiana
How can you say one state's history is "better" than another's?
To me, it's not that one state's history is "better" than another's. But the history of some states has had a more significant impact than that of other states. For example the events leading from the founding of the 13 original colonies, through the US War for Independence to the founding of the young nation has had, IMO, a more significant impact on world history than, let's say, the history of Wyoming or Colorado.
To me, it's not that one state's history is "better" than another's. But the history of some states has had a more significant impact than that of other states. For example the events leading from the founding of the 13 original colonies, through the US War for Independence to the founding of the young nation has had, IMO, a more significant impact on world history than, let's say, the history of Wyoming or Colorado.
Guess which two states were the first to give women the right to vote? Or do you not think women's suffrage significant?
Hint: Not any of the 13 colonies, but two that you did name.
And where was the first national park? Hint: Not any of the 13 colonies, but one that you did name.
Why? Do you believe in some strange form of evolution where the west wasn't around at the same time as the northeast? And I have shown that CO and S. Carolina were settled at approximately THE SAME TIME!
Because the Northeastern U.S was densely settled, and had major, established cities for centuries before Denver was even founded. That's all you need to know.
NYC and Philly were globally important cities before Denver even existed. Denver is a very young city, with a very short history.
Because the Northeastern U.S was densely settled, and had major, established cities for centuries before Denver was even founded. That's all you need to know.
NYC and Philly were globally important cities before Denver even existed. Denver is a very young city, with a very short history.
Globally important? I don't think so! The US did not become a "superpower" until after WW I, at which point Denver had a population of 256,000 people and was the 25th most populous city in the US. http://www.census.gov/population/www...0027/tab15.txt
I've always thought easterners were parochial, but this is extreme! The most important city in the US is DC, the capital of the free world. It was founded in 1791, 67 years before Denver.
Guess which two states were the first to give women the right to vote? Or do you not think women's suffrage significant?
Hint: Not any of the 13 colonies, but two that you did name.
And where was the first national park? Hint: Not any of the 13 colonies, but one that you did name.
I am not saying that no significant events occurred in other parts of the country. But relatively speaking, I personally find the events that occurred on the east coat more pivotal in the overall scheme of things. I mean the US was founded here on the streets where the founding fathers walked. If there were no US, there would be no national parks, or nor a country for women to vote in. Just sayin'
Globally important? I don't think so! The US did not become a "superpower" until after WW I, at which point Denver had a population of 256,000 people and was the 25th most populous city in the US. http://www.census.gov/population/www...0027/tab15.txt
I've always thought easterners were parochial, but this is extreme! The most important city in the US is DC, the capital of the free world. It was founded in 1791, 67 years before Denver.
Katiana, you make no sense.
Yes, NYC and Philly were very important cities long before the U.S. was a global superpower (who knew that London, Paris, Rome, and Tokyo aren't important cities because their countries aren't global superpowers?)
No, Denver was not a large city during WWI. As you state, it was only the 25th most populous city.
No, DC is not the most important city in the U.S. Not the largest, not the richest, not the most important.
A place isn't automatically most important because it's the capital, just like Sacramento or Albany aren't the most important places in California and New York, just like Brasilia or Canberra or Ottawa aren't the most important places in Brazil, Australia and Canada.
I said before that much of the american southwest was largely uninhabited. It was part of the New Spain, then later Mexico. Very few Europeans, Mestizos and Indigenous people lived there. At around that time, the US had a lot of cities like Columbus, Cincinatti, Chicago, pretty much more territory west of the Ohio River.
Guess which two states were the first to give women the right to vote? Or do you not think women's suffrage significant?
Hint: Not any of the 13 colonies, but two that you did name.
And where was the first national park? Hint: Not any of the 13 colonies, but one that you did name.
But that's largely due to two major reasons.
1) Many cities, towns and states have cities, towns and state parks.
2) The VAST majority of federal land is in western states not the eastern. Look for yourself
36% of Colorado is Federal land. RI 0.4...yeah NH is a bit up there but it's not remotely close.
This map illustrates that western states have very significant portions under federal control. Most of this is Bureau of Land Management. Since the feds had the resources it made sense at least at the time.
You also have to remember that the government cannot tax itself so the more that it is owned by government the less in tax revenues and thus the less services that can be provided.
If you want to talk about things like old faithful and the grand canyon of course no state could fully fund let alone have the energy to maintain that. But there are plenty of parks near urban areas.
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