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Old 01-31-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: East coast
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Three generations of ancestry in the country I mean. I'm talking about Asian-Americans whose descendents were early settlers, such as the early miners in California.

About how many people today would be descended from them and in which places is it common? California and Hawaii are the main places this comes to mind, but I heard Washington, Oregon and even Montana and Idaho at one point had Chinese immigration in the 19th century.
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Old 01-31-2014, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Three generations of ancestry in the country I mean. I'm talking about Asian-Americans whose descendants were early settlers, such as the early miners in California.

About how many people today would be descended from them and in which places is it common? California and Hawaii are the main places this comes to mind, but I heard Washington, Oregon and even Montana and Idaho at one point had Chinese immigration in the 19th century.
There are certainly Japanese-Americans which are well into their third generation, along with many Filipinos. Keep in mind, though, Asian-Americans have very high rates of outmarriage, so generally speaking these people would be 3/4ths (or greater) white today (or in some cases black).

Regarding the 19th century Chinese community, things are a bit different. They were forced into ethnic ghettos in the early 20th century, but few Chinese women migrated to the U.S. So the vast majority of the Chinese migrants from this period died childless.
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Old 02-01-2014, 12:45 AM
 
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There are certainly Japanese-Americans which are well into their third generation, along with many Filipinos. Keep in mind, though, Asian-Americans have very high rates of outmarriage, so generally speaking these people would be 3/4ths (or greater) white today (or in some cases black).

Regarding the 19th century Chinese community, things are a bit different. They were forced into ethnic ghettos in the early 20th century, but few Chinese women migrated to the U.S. So the vast majority of the Chinese migrants from this period died childless.
Without statistics I'd caution against generalizations like "generally speaking these people would be 3/4ths white today" because I'm not sure I believe that necessarily. Some, yes, but I don't know about most. Anyways, there are many people in California and Washington states that are 3rd generations Asian-Americans, but the proportion will continue to shrink as Asian immigration remains steady and large. This might have been much clearer in, say, 1970, then today. It seems like a paradox at first, but during times of immigration boom the period of 3rd generation Asian-Americans can be less than at points than in the past. But you can also find 3rd generation Asian-Americans in New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts as well.
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Old 02-01-2014, 05:54 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area/Honolulu
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There are certainly Japanese-Americans which are well into their third generation, along with many Filipinos. Keep in mind, though, Asian-Americans have very high rates of outmarriage, so generally speaking these people would be 3/4ths (or greater) white today (or in some cases black).

Regarding the 19th century Chinese community, things are a bit different. They were forced into ethnic ghettos in the early 20th century, but few Chinese women migrated to the U.S. So the vast majority of the Chinese migrants from this period died childless.
That doesn't apply to Hawaii, where Asians are the largest group. The majority of Asians in Hawaii are full Asian, but it is fairly common to find people of multiple Asian ethnicities such as Chinese and Japanese. Even in other states, there are a lot who are full or at least half Asian. But Hawaii is the only state in which the Asian percentage of the population is decreasing and the strong majority of Asians were born in America. The SF bay area and Seattle are a couple other places with quite a few 3rd or more generation Asians. Southern California has its share too, but also has more first generation immigrants than the bay area.

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