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View Poll Results: Could an East Coast State surpass California in Asian percentage?
Yes 10 33.33%
No 20 66.67%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-22-2014, 05:39 PM
 
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Not trolling, but I did find something interesting.

Back in 2000, the Asian population of New Jersey was at 3.5% Asian in 1990 to 5.7% in 2000 to 9.0% today and rapidly increasing. Asians from New York City and from around the world seem to be flooding into New Jersey everyday.

California, in the meantime went from 9.6% Asian in 1990 to 10.9% Asian in 2000 to 13.9% Asian today. This is impressive because AFAIK, I think all this growth is from international migration and their children.

Could the combination of domestic migration and international migration possibly make New Jersey or any other East Coast state surpass California in Asian %?
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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FTR I voted no on this poll. Though its impressive how fast the Asian (South, Southeastern, and East) population is growing on the East Coast, California still seems to be the primary port of entry for every non-South Asian group. Even for Indians, California lately has been the largest port of entry due to Silicon Valley. Other South Asian groups will follow, as they have on the East Coast once the language and cultural infrastructure is lain.

I think Chinese immigrants prefer the East Coast nowadays, but California is so far ahead that it doesn't matter.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:12 PM
 
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China City of America, if it happens, would certainly change the landscape on the east coast a bit.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:33 PM
 
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China City of America, if it happens, would certainly change the landscape on the east coast a bit.
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Chinese immigrants have preferred the NY-NJ area since 2006 slightly, with the height of separation being 2011 when around 6000 more Chinese immigrants (from the People's Republic of China, not including Taiwan and Hong Kong) moved to New York and New Jersey combined than the whole state of California.

In 2012, it went back to a 4000 person difference.

Again, this isn't including Taiwan and Hong Kong, but just the People's Republic alone. When those two are added, California is still neck and neck with New York-New Jersey. But California is so far ahead to begin with that it may not even matter.

Just thought it was interesting to point out.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:56 PM
 
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I would say possibly, but not very soon.

NY or NJ could surpass, because the NYC metro gets (numerically) a lot more Asian immigrants than either LA or the Bay Area. But CA currently has a higher Asian %, because there are Asians everywhere in CA, while in NY/NJ they tend to be in the NYC metro, but not really in other places as much.

NYC, in particular, has giant Asian populations from China, Korea, and South Asia, and Northern/Central NJ have exploding populations of Asians, especially South Asians.
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:25 PM
 
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I would say possibly, but not very soon.

NY or NJ could surpass, because the NYC metro gets (numerically) a lot more Asian immigrants than either LA or the Bay Area. But CA currently has a higher Asian %, because there are Asians everywhere in CA, while in NY/NJ they tend to be in the NYC metro, but not really in other places as much.

NYC, in particular, has giant Asian populations from China, Korea, and South Asia, and Northern/Central NJ have exploding populations of Asians, especially South Asians.
I think NYC CSA is about to pass up LA CSA in raw Asian population this year or next year, and are neck and neck in terms of Asian %.

What pushes California forward is Northern California though in terms of geography. What we've been seeing lately with the Silicon Valley boom is an increasing amount of South Asians (mostly Telugu and Tamil speaking South Indians), to augment the already large Punjabi population that was in California from forever ago. The inverse of what I was describing above with Chinese Americans is happening to Indian Americans coming to California: in 2006, Indians started coming to California in larger numbers than New York and New Jersey combined.

In 2011, 2000 more Indians came to California as a whole than New York+ New Jersey, and around 1500 more in 2012. Note this is just Indians and not the rest of the nationalities in South Asia, which New York + New Jersey obviously have more of as a whole.

In terms of demography, what's lacking in NY + NJ are Southeast Asian groups, which are the largest group of Asians in California (Vietnamese, Filipinos, Indonesians, Cambodian, Thais, Burmese, Malaysians, Singaporeans, Laotians, Hmong), but that's alright.

Note: no place in North America could really compare to New York City in terms of immigrant groups. IIRC, NYC CSA gets a larger number of North American immigrants than even Los Angeles, impressive considering that Los Angeles is right near the border
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:50 PM
 
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In 2011, 2000 more Indians came to California as a whole than New York+ New Jersey, and around 1500 more in 2012. Note this is just Indians and not the rest of the nationalities in South Asia, which New York + New Jersey obviously have more of as a whole.
Interesting; I did not know that. It would certainly make sense if the San Jose MSA were the biggest beneficiary of this Indian surge to CA. Tech is absolutely a driver of Indian immigration.

A big part of the South Asian population in the NYC area, however is non-Indians. NYC Metro has very big populations of Pakistanis and Bangldeshis, and has the largest Sri Lankan and Nepali populations. I'm not sure if the San Jose area (or anywhere in CA) is attracting big numbers of these populations.

It's hard to compare the two in that NY+NJ (and even +CT) is still basically one major metro area when it comes to Asian population (yes there are huge parts of these states not in the NYC metro area, especially NY State, but frankly it's irrelevant to Asian immigration), while in California there are really four major metro areas, so it's like combining LA+SD+SF+SAC CSAs and still getting similar numbers, which is pretty impressive given the relative locations.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:19 PM
 
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Interesting; I did not know that. It would certainly make sense if the San Jose MSA were the biggest beneficiary of this Indian surge to CA. Tech is absolutely a driver of Indian immigration.
It's pretty evenly split between San Francisco area and San Jose area. Even numbers to each. Most likely for the same reason.

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It's hard to compare the two in that NY+NJ (and even +CT) is still basically one major metro area when it comes to Asian population (yes there are huge parts of these states not in the NYC metro area, especially NY State, but frankly it's irrelevant to Asian immigration), while in California there are really four major metro areas, so it's like combining LA+SD+SF+SAC CSAs and still getting similar numbers, which is pretty impressive given the relative locations.
True that. NYC CSA basically has an economy slightly larger than the size of LA CSA and SF CSA combined, which is really why it draws so many more immigrants than those two combined. SD and SAC are what push California over.

California alone gets 107,825 legal permanent residents from Asia last year
New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut combined got 83,521 immigrants from Asia last year.

I'm actually wondering to which area has more illegals from Asia overstaying their visas/living here illegally.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:11 AM
 
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I just tallied all the new permanent resident immigrants for each state from the Asian countries that sent at least 10,000 immigrants to the United States in 2012. Here are the top 10 states for each country...


Bangladesh
7,519 - New York
1,022 - New Jersey
892 - Michigan
812 - California
682 - Texas
647 - Florida
572 - Virginia
411 - Pennsylvania
382 - Georgia
284 - Maryland

Bhutan
1,423 - Pennsylvania
914 - Texas
902 - New York
618 - Georgia
511 - Colorado
498 - Ohio
408 - North Carolina
384 - Virginia
370 - Arizona
342 - Massachusetts

Burma (Myanmar)
2,602 - Texas
1,697 - New York
1,413 - Indiana
1,129 - California
943 - Georgia
844 - Minnesota
738 - North Carolina
614 - Iowa
520 - Maryland
501 - Michigan

China
24,956 - New York
22,424 - California
3,203 - Texas
3,064 - Massachusetts
2,324 - Illinois
2,166 - New Jersey
2,017 - Washington
1,854 - Pennsylvania
1,755 - Florida
1,385 - Virginia

India
13,951 - California
7,623 - New Jersey
5,833 - Texas
4,621 - New York
4,477 - Illinois
2,473 - Virginia
2,317 - Pennsylvania
2,234 - Georgia
2,180 - Washington
1,966 - Massachusetts

Iran
6,591 - California
1,160 - Texas
567 - Virginia
451 - Maryland
387 - New York
361 - Washington
360 - Florida
311 - Georgia
268 - Illinois
231 - Massachusetts

Iraq
3,926 - California
3,007 - Michigan
2,278 - Texas
1,180 - Illinois
929 - Arizona
927 - Virginia
707 - New York
624 - Massachusetts
608 - Tennessee
595 - Washington

Nepal
1,416 - New York
1,367 - Texas
916 - California
880 - Virginia
706 - Pennsylvania
640 - Maryland
573 - Massachusetts
522 - Colorado
403 - Georgia
347 - Illinois

Philippines
22,484 - California
4,037 - Hawaii
3,231 - New York
2,778 - Texas
2,377 - Illinois
2,372 - Florida
2,319 - New Jersey
1,869 - Nevada
1,804 - Washington
1,315 - Virginia

South Korea
6,621 - California
1,907 - New York
1,666 - New Jersey
1,337 - Georgia
1,213 - Texas
1,096 - Virginia
773 - Maryland
700 - Illinois
669 - Washington
490 - Pennsylvania

Vietnam
9,714 - California
3,691 - Texas
1,356 - Washington
1,278 - Florida
944 - Massachusetts
914 - Georgia
825 - Pennsylvania
813 - Virginia
806 - North Carolina
530 - Minnesota
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Old 02-24-2014, 09:01 AM
 
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I just want to add that while NYC does get the bulk of Asians in NY State, Asians are a growing group in other parts of the state and some communities already have above average percentages(vs the national percentage) of Asian residents. Tompkins County in Upstate NY is approaching 10% Asian, for an example.
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