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Old 03-28-2014, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Originally Posted by Min-Chi-Cbus View Post
No, the 7-county region is not the UA. That's not how UA is defined. It's defined as being the contiguous area where population densities exceed 1,000 ppsm, I believe. That would exclude most of the land within most of the counties, including Hennepin, and rightfully so.

Our metro (funny, neither of us live there!) is weird in that no one county is fully built out (except Ramsey), and most have only small portions that reach into the core population of the Twin Cities. For this reason (and others, like a sprawling suburban environment), the population density of the metro is always extremely low.

*Edit: this is how the Census defined Urbanized Areas. I'm not sure either of us have it 100% correct, but they did mention one good analogy to describe an Urbanized Area: the built environment you see when looking down from a plane.
There are thirteen counties recognized by the US Office of Budget and Management. These counties are included because of commuting patterns. The seven county area is a state--actually Metropolitan Council--definition which as designed to address regional oversight of development patterns.

The term "urbanized area" is somewhat ambiguous in The United States.

The European Union does have an official definition for the term which is related to continuously developed land. For this purpose; any residential, commercial, and industrial area is considered developed--as are parks, cemeteries, rail yards, etc. I believe a continuously undeveloped span of 300 meters is considered to be the end of an urbanized area by EU definition.
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Feel free to add those counties guys, I'm only doing 7.
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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County, Houston metro area top national list of population gains - Houston Chronicle

births are the driving factor for Houston growth

142k new births crazy
Births are the driving factor for all of the fast growing metro areas.
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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It is starting to look like this will be the decade that Minneapolis passes Chicago as the fastest growing Midwest metro in terms of raw numbers. Census population growth estimates from 2010 - 2013 for Midwestern metros of over half a million:

Minneapolis 110,287
Chicago 76,184
Indianapolis 66,084
Columbus 65,092
Kansas City 45,131
Des Moines 30,156
Omaha 29,801
Grand Rapids 27,665
Cincinnati 22,826
St Louis 22,355
Madison 21,996
Milwaukee 13,751
Wichita 6,475
Dayton 3,257
Akron 2,486
Detroit -1,267
Toledo -1,856
Youngstown -10,267
Cleveland -12,515

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Old 03-28-2014, 12:08 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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By MSA, 2014:
Philadelphia: 6,034,678
Washington: 5,949,859
Miami: 5,828,191

About 200,000 (just slightly more) separates the biggest from the smallest of these three.
I think it's safe to say this is the last year Philly is the 6th largest MSA, will be passed by DC if not already this year. And probably again the following year by Miami.
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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The Twin Cities has always been bigger than given credit for.

People got the belief that it's a small potatoes metro from that stretch in which Calvin Griffith and Bud Selig led a campaign to contract the Twins and thus send more upper midwest fans to Selig's Milwaukee Brewers.
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Old 03-28-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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The Twin Cities has always been bigger than given credit for.

People got the belief that it's a small potatoes metro from that stretch in which Calvin Griffith and Bud Selig led a campaign to contract the Twins and thus send more upper midwest fans to Selig's Milwaukee Brewers.
That is good for the area, I believe. It eliminates the boom/bust cycles that plague other areas. Its steady growth allows it to keep up with necessary improvements. It also holds back those people that move because an area is 'trendy' and the weather is 'nice.'
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Old 03-28-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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The Twin Cities has always been bigger than given credit for.

People got the belief that it's a small potatoes metro from that stretch in which Calvin Griffith and Bud Selig led a campaign to contract the Twins and thus send more upper midwest fans to Selig's Milwaukee Brewers.
They were always referred to as a small market team back then, when in reality the Twin Cities media market is about the same size as Miami's and Seattle's. The Twins were only a small market team because they were playing in a crappy stadium that generated a below average revenue stream.
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Old 03-28-2014, 01:38 PM
 
Location: NYC/LA
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Census: LA County surpassed 10M residents in 2013 | Multi-American | 89.3 KPCC
"New U.S. Census population estimates released Thursday confirmed that Los Angeles County broke 10 million residents in 2013, making it the nation's most populous.
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"In Southern California, growth occurred in Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino and Ventura counties between 2012 and 2013; Los Angeles had the nation's third-largest population increase, with more than 65,000 new residents."

"The Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim Metropolitan area is the nation's second largest, with 13.1 million residents. It also had the nation's fourth largest population increase, adding 94,386 new residents."

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Source: 89.3 KPCC

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Old 03-28-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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FYI most of that growth happened on the Fort Worth side. Most of the growth on the Dallas side has been in the northern suburbs (Plano, Frisco, etc.). Dallas is receiving plenty of attention for its growth, but a lot of people are missing the story that is happening in Fort Worth.
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Seems like everyone remembers Saint Paul when talking about the twin cities, but forgets about Fort Worth when talking about the metroplex.
Don't worry guys, I'm from the Metroplex. I know that Ft. Worth exists. I did look at the growth in Tarrant County and it was right behind the growth in Dallas County. Are you saying that people are moving to Fort Worth, or are they moving to the suburbs, like Arlington, Mansfield, HEB, Keller, etc.?
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