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Old 04-15-2014, 01:41 PM
 
Location: N E B R A S K A
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It's pretty solidly Mid-Atlantic. Perhaps even part of the "Lower Northeast."
From the perspective of an outsider...I can't see how Richmond is remotely Northeastern feeling compared to other cities that dot the upper half of the East Coast. Sure it has some similar architecture that dates it's historical relevance but the correlation of similar style buildings doesn't denote a cultural similarity amongst the people.
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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What is "Northeastern culture" anyway?

The "Northeast" is New England and the Middle Atlantic. Virginia is the Middle Atlantic. Richmond is in Virginia. Therefore, Richmond is in the Northeast. Case closed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Atlantic#Metropolitan_Areas
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: N E B R A S K A
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What is "Northeastern culture" anyway?

The "Northeast" is New England and the Middle Atlantic. Virginia is the Middle Atlantic. Richmond is in Virginia. Therefore, Richmond is in the Northeast. Case closed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Atlantic#Metropolitan_Areas
That argument doesn't hold a lot of water though. The USGS map sites a large swath of North Carolina as "Middle Atlantic" as well.

Surely you aren't making the assertion that an arbitrary map on a site thats only prerequisite for editing capability is a pulse and the ability to turn on a computer is the authority for defining culture identity.
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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That argument doesn't hold a lot of water though. The USGS map sites a large swath of North Carolina as "Middle Atlantic" as well.
Parts of North Carolina are indeed Mid-Atlantic.

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Surely you aren't making the assertion that an arbitrary map on a site thats only prerequisite for editing capability is a pulse and the ability to turn on a computer is the authority for defining culture identity.
Is there a definitive source that completely locks down the boundaries of the Middle Atlantic? What sources do you have that state that the Mid-Atlantic is only a certain collection of states and nothing more?
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:01 PM
 
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I wouldn't say any parts of NC are culturally Mid-Atlantic. Some of the urban areas of NC are indeed less southern than the rural areas, but these urban areas are a lot more similar to the Atlanta metro than Mid-Atlantic cities such as DC or Baltimore. They are urban areas in a southeastern way, not so much Mid-Atlantic. Plus, it's safe to say the whole state of NC is a lot more similar to South Carolina and Georgia than a state such as Maryland or Pennsylvania.
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I wouldn't say any parts of NC are culturally Mid-Atlantic.
What is "Mid Atlantic culture?"
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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What is "Mid Atlantic culture?"
Whatever culture you find in Mid-Atlantic states such as Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, etc. North Carolina barely has anything in common with any of these states because it's much more southeast, not Mid-Atlantic. Why do you say there are areas of North Carolina that are Mid-Atlantic and what is Mid-Atlantic to you?
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:22 PM
 
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You could say Virginia goes either way between southeast and Mid-Atlantic (even though most of Virginia is southern) but North Carolina is way too southern/southeastern.
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Whatever culture you find in Mid-Atlantic states such as Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, etc.
Ah, I see. That's very specific.

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North Carolina barely has anything in common with any of these states because it's much more southeast, not Mid-Atlantic. Why do you say there are areas of North Carolina that are Mid-Atlantic and what is Mid-Atlantic to you?
Mid-Atlantic is really more about self-identification than anything else. If you Google "Richmond Mid Atlantic," you come up with all types of hits.

Mid-Atlantic Controls Corp - An Independent Building Automation & Integrated Systems and Services Contractor

Mid Atlantic Insurance - The Agency for Agents

Mid-Atlantic Chapter of Paralyzed Veterans Partners With City of Richmond to Coordinate Emergency Planning - Paralyzed Veterans of America

So Richmond is clearly the Northeast along with Philadelphia and Boston. Anyone who says otherwise is changing the rules of the game to fit their preconceived notions of the "Northeast." The Northeast is New England and the Mid-Atlantic.

The Research Triangle has strong Mid-Atlantic influence. It's becoming more and more like Northern Virginia.
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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North Carolina
Pennsylvania
New York (n.i. NYC)
West Virginia
Virginia
Maryland
Delaware
New Jersey
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